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Originally posted by bb14
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Are you talking about the spring rod or something else?
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Are you talking about the spring rod or something else?Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing -
They have a device that has been tested recently. They may deny it. One of my friends is in the HoF and he first denied it. Another friend liked it. Who knows but you can bet the farm there are some out there trying to duplicate it. And it is not for sale yet.Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View PostComment
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Been wondering how close the Zero was to having it.Originally posted by bb14 View PostModern Day Spec Wedge RacingComment
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Everyone is soooo convinced magic is happening .... Let
Me ask you this ... How many of the guys in here looking to the 4m gurus can pound the cushion on high speed race tracks anywhere near the same planet as davensnort ?? How many of
Those 22 races would
Davensnort have won using the traditional Bloomquist line instead of hammering the cushion ??? How many guys hammer the cushion anywhere near as well as davensnort ??? Bobby Pierce comes to mind but who else ??? A lot of guys run high but lack the finess to run the hub when it's dead slick.. I think the secret is that there is no secret..... I know billet has that cad designed front end that can make a U turn in the middle
Of 3 and 4 at eldora without sliding the back end or losing any speed .... It still comes
Down to once you spin the tires your done..... And the top guys do it way less than us hobby racers. And the real bottom line is being the best dirt late model driver in the world pays a small fraction of
Being the best in the world at (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) near any other profession. Keep searching for magic and the guys who are good will keep testing and adjusting and keep winning like it's always been.Comment
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You are right. Davenport would have won those races with a monoleaf. Engineering is useless.Originally posted by hucktyson View PostModern Day Spec Wedge RacingComment
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There is a lot more money in engineering and chassis companies than building decks. You should try it.Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
While I agree with a lot of what you say I disagree with the way you came across with your replies. I only threw you a jab because of your reply.
There hasn't been any magic in quite some time. However, you must know your shocks, chassis, and probably most important your tires. You know that and we know that. No magic.
However new technology has made the cars faster and the 6 was the fastest car this year. All of the longhorns are fast.
Technology will make the cars faster next year and the next year. We all get it. Let's try to keep it positive. No one will learn how to win a race by reading this board. However there are some smart guys here for fun.
Keep it positive.Comment
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This reply was aimed at HuckComment
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No decent tech discussion goes unpunished.Comment
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Billetbirdcage flat dominated the Midwest on hard tires for many years. The billet front end Shaw cars he was working on and with were outclassing the field and we're almost too nice to actually race. I would venture to say he makes good bank doing what he does now and any major team would love to have him on board to help, they either have not offered enough $$$ or he enjoys his current gig more.Comment
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True statements Zeroracing.
What is this l/r device doing?Getting the car up but, not binding it.Allowing it to work like it is riding on the springs.Or changing the rear steer.Comment
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I've often thought about how stiff the LR gets on full hike up. Great for dynamic wedge...not so great for dampening. The spring isn't doing much and the tire is essentially providing the only "cushion" between the race track and the chassis. This is where I've wondered if a spring rod in place of the LR upper bar might be beneficial.Comment
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Davensnorts car bounces all over the place on the LR. I never said engineering isn't very important , I'm just saying I think part of his 2015 dominance is due to his willingness and ability to hammer the piss out of the cushion for a 100 straight laps. And field engineers around you must make 15 times what they do around here ... You don't see Bloomquist pounding cushions like that ...Comment
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And as far as no good tech going unpunished the only thing that happens here are guys claiming they are Rumley squared while never answering anything and talking around in circles.Comment
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I'm assuming that most of this is directed at meOriginally posted by hucktyson View Post
Think you misread/interpreted what I posted: You seem to think I have said something along these lines so show me anywhere in my posts where I said that:
1. That I personally have the Rumbley devise figured out and know everything about it
2. That I know everything about their set up
3. That having such a devise or other things (magic as you call it) will make an average team/driver compete consistently against the top tier teams.
4. That I was mainly talking about the rumbley devise and nothing else
I said:
1. There are several things people are trying, didn't say I know everything about all of them but what I do know some of them are very promising. I never said if or what I was doing and if it had anything to do with anything Rumbley is doing.
2. Nobody else that I know of has been running the Rumbley devise at a major race that anyone has seen, reason I said Madden didn't have it cause it wasn't on his car during the finals and no one had ever seen it on his car at a race.
3. That I spent a bunch of time on CAD: never said what I was working on or if it even pertained to anything anyone else is doing. I got motivated to work on some stuff, I never got around to and also to work on some stuff others are doing to help understand what it could help with or if it's applicable in another area.
4. Changes are going: I believe when some of this stuff eventually comes out, it will be the new standard similar to the LR behind was back when (again never said it was my stuff, but you seem to have taken it that way).
You can think I'm a hack if you want, but nowhere did I claim to be some guru and know it all. JD and his team no doubt are an extremely good team, but to say they don't have some mechanical advantage (big or small) is burying your head in the sand. Everyone at times gets them from time to time, but no one has been able to be that dominate for that long. Even a slight one can add up but like I said many times you have to be in the same ball park. A mechanical advantage isn't going to make guy win races that couldn't keep up, but give that small advantage to one of the top teams that are all bunched together and now they are a tenth quicker. Sometimes that is all it takes.
The Top Teams feel JD has a pretty fair mechanical advantage (They have said it many times in interviews), thus the reason guys are trying stuff they normally would try. They are all hunting really hard to find something.Comment
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You're 100% right...as someone else said...Davenport could win a leaf-spring car if that's the case.Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
Get a clue dude, Davenport is a good driver but he isn't that good.
If you don't think that they had something figured out on the LR this past season, you're either ignorant or fibbing to yourself.
And I never said they had a spring rod on the LR...my comment was part of what we call a DISCUSSION which you seem to know nothing about being a part of...
Now I'll sit back and wait for the typical sophomoric response that we've all come to expect from you.Comment
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