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  • catgo22
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 317

    #1

    Hem in a door skin wheel opening

    Trying to figure out how to roll a hem in a door skin wheel opening. Moved the bead roller all around and can't figure out how to hold the door and get this through the die without having the door way up in the air. Anybody have a good way to do it?
    Last edited by catgo22; 12-09-2015, 03:46 PM.
  • 3wheelinphotos
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 354

    #2
    Hammer an a dolly is how every one is done here at Warrior Race Cars

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    • tin man
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 28

      #3
      Snap on duck billed pliers and a small hammer

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      • zeroracing
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1014

        #4
        I can't see the picture but I use vice grips to start the bend, softly not to mar, then hammer and dolly it to 90 then hammer on over with a wood block to smash it. If you doing the 180 1/4" heim. If I am doing a 90 degree 1' glance then I built a tool similar to the allstar performance wood block deal and use it.

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        • Dirt36
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 141

          #5
          I bought a piece of key stock ( 1/2" square) about 12inches long. Cut into the center of one end 1/4"-3/8" deep, then beveled one side till it was rounded. Works great but you still end up hammering it nice and flat. I hope my description made enough sense haha, before that I use a crescent wrench and hammer

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          • Racer96m
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 425

            #6
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rMiDuTab4 Youtube video from Mittler Brothers on making the hem with your bead roller.

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            • Punisher88
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 495

              #7
              ^^what he said. But I use an Irvan smith bead roller.

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              • Lizardracing
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 839

                #8
                I use a piece of oak dowel about 6" long and cut a slot in the end with the grain. Working a little a time until it can be hammered over or in my case I leave it at 90'. Takes me 15 minutes per opening. I use the same tool on roof posts too.
                my wheels are on 3/8 hems though. I've never tried more than that.

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                • catgo22
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 317

                  #9
                  Thanks for all the ideas. I did one doorskin wheelwell hem with the Irvin-Smith roller and hem dies, the other with a 1"x6" oak dowel. On the electric roller, I just hoisted the door up in the air and ran it through. It does a good job but it was way to hard to hold it steady and get it through without screwing it up. On the other door, used the dowel rod with a slot to start the hem and a body hammer to finish. That worked better. I didn't think it could turn out that good. Thanks again.
                  Last edited by catgo22; 12-09-2015, 03:46 PM.

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                  • hucktyson
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 1903

                    #10
                    I have the rolling dies for my mitler brothers power bead roller but honestly electrical linesman pliers , a body hammer and a block of ipe do a better job

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                    • dorman19
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 6

                      #11
                      for the best results angle the bead roller at 45 deg so the bottom roller is level with bench learned this from looking at rockets setup

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                      • RacerX10
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 571

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dorman19 View Post
                        for the best results angle the bead roller at 45 deg so the bottom roller is level with bench learned this from looking at rockets setup
                        Brillilant !

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                        • 7uptruckracer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 1336

                          #13
                          Can you explain that a little better I can't put it together this morning lol
                          Originally posted by RacerX10 View Post
                          Brillilant !

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                          • RacerX10
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 571

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 7uptruckracer View Post
                            Can you explain that a little better I can't put it together this morning lol
                            He's saying you'd lay the quarter panel down flat on your work bench, and tilt the bead roller up on something so it's sitting at at 45 degree angle down .. then you just rotate the panel around with the bench holding it up and flat.

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                            • Lizardracing
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 839

                              #15
                              Racing is a contact sport in my neck of the woods so spending too much time on body work seems ludicrous when it's not gonna be that way by lap three any way.

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