Suspension rules get locked down ....

[Josh Bayko]

The only people that are gonna ever truly get teched on all this garbage are the Rumleys and the Rocket house car. Everybody else can pretty much get away with just about anything they want. I feel bad for the racers that spend/have spent all sorts of money to get legal when nobody's ever gonna check them anyways.

[RCJ]

Has MARS adopted these style of rules.Their web site still has the same rules as always,but you know how websites dont always get up dated.

[billetbirdcage]

Has MARS adopted these style of rules.Their web site still has the same rules as always,but you know how websites dont always get up dated.

Not yet, they are under "Dirt car" which is UMP, WoO, and Mars. As soon as the WoO group defines/decides on the wording they want they will release their version of the rules, now when that happens could be 1 week, 3 months, 2017, or never. There is also a few other series waiting on the WoO group so they can copy what they do.

[Josh Bayko]

Not yet, they are under "Dirt car" which is UMP, WoO, and Mars. As soon as the WoO group defines/decides on the wording they want they will release their version of the rules, now when that happens could be 1 week, 3 months, 2017, or never. There is also a few other series waiting on the WoO group so they can copy what they do.

If I remember correctly, the WoO has said no rule changes for this year. If there are any rule changes coming out of the meetings of the committee, it wouldn't go into effect until next season.

[dunn5]

WoO is about the worst at tech. They come by and make the local guys change stuff that the WoO guy one pit stall over has his worse than ours.

[billetbirdcage]

If I remember correctly, the WoO has said no rule changes for this year. If there are any rule changes coming out of the meetings of the committee, it wouldn't go into effect until next season.

You see that in print somewhere? Because from what I gathered, they are clarifying wording before they are finalized. When I asked the director of another series when they would have their rules out (they said they were forthcoming, shortly - IE said that 2 months ago) I got the reply they are waiting on WoO to decide on the wording and should be along shortly.

I have yet to see any actual official comment on if or when, but every one else seems to think its still coming and for this year. Maybe I missed it and I have talked to guys that went to the meeting in Florida and all seems to think it was still coming for this year or least they never said anything about not until next year.

[RacerX10]

But, I have to throw away stuff I have owned for 20 years.

Like what ?

[billetbirdcage]

Like what ?

Per Lucas wording you can't run: (Off the top of my head without going back an looking again.)

Brake floater, LR spring in front birdcage, LR spring in front on clamp bracket, Swivel shock mounts, bearing chain limiter, spring rod 4-link, 2 RR springs, 2 axle dampeners like a Rayburn.


Now I doubt you will get D/Q'ed for it, but by the letter of the rules you can't run any of that now. Maybe they will update or add to the rules, but I doubt it and will just not tech it or let it pass.

[sobe92]

The bearing chain holder has been approved in Lucas Oil Races after Kid Rocket was almost DQed for it during speedweeks.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

He doesn't even race anymore been a few years, he is helping some guy he said on here.

Not sure what you would have from 20 years ago to throw away. But should be a interesting reply. Maybe he was 20 years ahead of the game?

Billet already answered for me. Brake floaters, 2 RR springs, reverse mount axle damper, spring rod, etc

[RCJ]

WoO released the rules.I 'M the lowest buck racer you will ever meet.The have made something I have been working on for 2 years illegal.So much for thing outside the box.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

WoO released the rules.I 'M the lowest buck racer you will ever meet.The have made something I have been working on for 2 years illegal.So much for thing outside the box.

Guys like us ain't wanted.

[SuperEight]

What are they trying to do with these new rules ?

Slow down the the Rumley/Davenport juggernaut. They need to just let go and simplify.

1) Shocks can't be directly connected to each other, by wire or hydraulic line.
2) 1-shock per wheel

Simpler is always the easier cheapest course. Outlawing spring rods and brake floaters only puts companies out of business and cripples ingenuity that took decades to perfect. I think these 'NEW" rules pushes more teams away from attempting to comply with Lucas. Obviously there attempt at slowing down Rumley/Davenport with "NEW" rules had little or no effect. Next they'll outlaw having a degree or above average intelligence. We don't need a NASCRAP of dirt.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Slow down the the Rumley/Davenport juggernaut. They need to just let go and simplify.

1) Shocks can't be directly connected to each other, by wire or hydraulic line.
2) 1-shock per wheel

Simpler is always the easier cheapest course. Outlawing spring rods and brake floaters only puts companies out of business and cripples ingenuity that took decades to perfect. I think these 'NEW" rules pushes more teams away from attempting to comply with Lucas. Obviously there attempt at slowing down Rumley/Davenport with "NEW" rules had little or no effect. Next they'll outlaw having a degree or above average intelligence. We don't need a NASCRAP of dirt.

At the 2020 World 100, you will sign in, get your allotment of tires from Dirt Car, and rent your shocks. 25 teams will enter.

[a25rjr]

Slow down the the Rumley/Davenport juggernaut. They need to just let go and simplify.

1) Shocks can't be directly connected to each other, by wire or hydraulic line.
2) 1-shock per wheel

Simpler is always the easier cheapest course. Outlawing spring rods and brake floaters only puts companies out of business and cripples ingenuity that took decades to perfect. I think these 'NEW" rules pushes more teams away from attempting to comply with Lucas. Obviously there attempt at slowing down Rumley/Davenport with "NEW" rules had little or no effect. Next they'll outlaw having a degree or above average intelligence. We don't need a NASCRAP of dirt.

Why was it aimed at them? They maybe race 6 or so times with WOO! Obviously, that isn't the case!