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  • billetbirdcage
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2019

    #1

    Things that make you go: What?????

    SOUTHERN ALL STAR DIRT RACING SERIES TECHNICAL BULLETIN #3

    FAYETTEVILLE, TN—IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    ENGINES / SPOILERS: CT 525 & SAS / SUPR SPEC ENGINES

    After careful consideration of current trends and to be more in line with other touring series in
    the region the Southern All Star Dirt Racing Series announced theses changes in the interest of fair competition and a level playing field among all engine classifications.

    These changes are effective April 30, 2016 and will be administered at events subsequent to this date.

    All cars powered by a SAS or SUPR Spec engine will be allowed an 8” maximum spoiler and sides and weight 2300 pounds.
    .
    All cars powered by the Chevrolet CT 525 Crate Engine will be allowed an 8” maximum spoiler and sides and weigh 2250 pounds.

    Weight / Engines:

    1. GM 602 or 604 2200 lbs 12 inch spoiler-12”side
    2. NLMS (358 cu in) 2200 lbs 8 inch spoiler-8”side
    3. Steel block, steel head (362 cu in) Open 2300 lbs 8 inch spoiler-8”side
    4. Steel block, steel head (363 cu in) Open 2400 lbs 8 inch spoiler-8”side
    5. SAS or SUPR SPEC 2300 lbs 8 inch spoiler 8”side
    6. Steel block, aluminum head 2250 lbs 8 inch spoiler-8” side
    7. GM CT525 2250 lbs 8 inch spoiler-8” side
    8. Open engines 2300 lbs 8 inch spoiler-8”side

    Further information on the Southern All Stars Dirt Racing Series can be obtained by calling General Manager Lynn Acklin at (256) 924-4546 or you can log on to the official series website at www.sasdirt.com . Also, LIKE the Southern All Stars Dirt Racing Series on Facebook or be a FOLLOWER on Twitter @SASDIRT.

    Not arguing the changing of spoilers and weights per-say, that's another argument but these don't make sense:

    1. So you have to weigh 100# more to run an all steel open motor over an open all aluminum engine???
    2. the 362 CID Spec engines and open engine is same everything now?
    3. You get a 50# weight break to run aluminum head on the steal block over all steel engine????
    4. Make your spec engine not spec anymore and get a 50# weight break??????

    Hope this is some sort of misprint, LMAO

    Seems it'd be easier to just say all engine combo's 2300 with 8" spoilers but 525 crate gets 50# break and 604 gets 100# break and 12" spoiler.
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14303

    #2
    I started reading that and just gave up.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • RacerX10
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 571

      #3
      I'll wager there will be a "Technical Bulletin #3 Version 2.0" coming soon. That weight makes no sense at all.

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      • a25rjr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 3774

        #4
        Not saying it cant be done, but Ive never been able to get a dlm down to 2200lbs with correct %'s.
        Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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        • billetbirdcage
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2019

          #5
          It takes work, but I've had several cars at 2150 with correct %'s and added lead to make weight. Most were SAS cars with the spec engine when the min was 2150, and several others closer to 2200#

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          • a25rjr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 3774

            #6
            Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Post
            It takes work, but I've had several cars at 2150 with correct %'s and added lead to make weight. Most were SAS cars with the spec engine when the min was 2150, and several others closer to 2200#
            Was that a standard car with standard bolt ons or did you have Pee Wee Herman for a driver? lol
            Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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            • billetbirdcage
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 2019

              #7
              Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
              Was that a standard car with standard bolt ons or did you have Pee Wee Herman for a driver? lol
              Drivers where in the 170 to 185# range, your not going to do 2150 or probably 2200 with a heavier frame like say a STD rocket. Our frames were 274# bare with out bumpers and our bumpers where lighter then most STD bumpers on cars because they make them out of cheap tubing so they are thicker then needed. The aluminum bumpers suck, but you can make good steel ones with good tubing where they are lighter and hold up pretty decent. I think we saved another 18# over Std type bumpers on all 3, been too long to remember.

              Engine weight is also big and takes some work. It's the 1600 ways to remove an ounce that gets you there not the couple ways to remove a pound, lol.

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              • a25rjr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 3774

                #8
                I figured you had a few "tricks" to get one that lite. I knew a local asphalt racer that always ordered his cars out of 063 chromoly from one of the national builders. I wonder if any of these dirt builders will build one out of that!
                Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                • perfconn
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3573

                  #9
                  SAS is shooting theirself in the foot.Anyone who has a spec motor with the same spoiler as an open motor might as well stay home.Looks like they are weeding out the little guys.

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