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  • gotdirt
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 4

    #1

    LF Spring Theory

    So last week I had a 500 on the left front... We won the feature, but the car was tight on corner exit on the gas as soon as I would pick up the throttle...Sometimes I would drag the brake off the corner to keep the nose of the car down till I could drive the push out. I have always thought that a softer LF spring loosens the car off the corner and of course stiffer LF tightens off. So this weekend all I did was soften the LF to a 450. Everything else the same...Same track conditions...The car had a terrible throttle push all night. 10 times worse than the week we won?? It was undrivable. I could enter the corner perfect, have the car turned to come off, but as soon as I would pick up the throttle the car would take off to the wall...Should have changed it back, but I didn't. So my question is...Did I go the wrong way with this spring?
  • CCHIEF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 399

    #2
    Something else is going on. LF spring has little to no effect on corner exit handling.
    Last edited by CCHIEF; 06-14-2016, 10:05 PM.

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    • rakracing
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 218

      #3
      lf effects getting in a lot ,not much on exit ,may have let it get off the rf a little sooner try tying down the rf a bit more if its good in and thru the middle.

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      • a25rjr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 3774

        #4
        You have increased the dynamic wedge with the softer spring, esp if your lf is staying tied down.
        Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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        • MBR Performance
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 199

          #5
          The more you soften the LF the more you will tighten exit. The days of saying it doesn't really effect exit are gone.

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          • fastford
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4059

            #6
            MBR is correct, what right front set up are you on?

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            • gotdirt
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 4

              #7
              Originally posted by fastford View Post
              MBR is correct, what right front set up are you on?
              375 spring....100lb compression...rebound tied down all I can...800lbs

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              • Kromulous
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 3008

                #8
                MBR, if it tightens exit, what does it affect on entry?

                Just say no...

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                • MBR Performance
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 199

                  #9
                  It will free your entry. However it has another effect that the closer you match the front springs the better the car will turn in on its own. I like to keep dropping the LF spring until it makes the car to free on entry then step it back up 25lbs.

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                  • Kromulous
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3008

                    #10
                    Thanks, looking for more adjustments in the slick than the usual.

                    Will give this a try.

                    Just say no...

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                    • CCHIEF
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 399

                      #11
                      With that logic a 525-550 LF spring will help eliminate your throttle push! 50# less LF spring is not going to turn your racecar into a dump truck. Way Too little info to give any kind of responsible recommendation. I'd bet the track had more moisture in it, that tends to make these cars a tick (sarcasm) tighter.
                      Last edited by CCHIEF; 06-14-2016, 10:51 PM.

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                      • MBR Performance
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 199

                        #12
                        He was already throttle tight the weekend before and lowered the LF spring even more so yes 50 pound would make it worse and possibly make it drive like a dump truck

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                        • CCHIEF
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 399

                          #13
                          The LF spring is not the go to adjustment for a tight car on exit. Give up what you got car, set,track and tires. Their is so much dynamic wedge in these cars when hiked up that 50# of spring... on the least loaded corner of the car (on exit) is not where you want to be adjusting FOR EXIT! Bringing the LR bars closer together @ frame would be a much more viable adjustment.

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                          • MBR Performance
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 199

                            #14
                            Bad idea to move the bars

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                            • CCHIEF
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 399

                              #15
                              Yes, you are right, a heavier LF spring is the go to adjustment for tight on the gas. (sarcasm)

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