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  • kslle
    Member
    • May 2007
    • 52

    #1

    orange/blue front rocket

    just changed to blue front,orange rear set up
    corner entry better then orange. corner exit car has no bite. 450 lf spring 300 rf spring[ car likes low rate on rf] lr spring 200 rr spring 225. have tried 180 bite up to 240 bite. also took lr spacer off.
    54% left side rear 53% class requires us to run 50lbs on front. d 55 tires
    feel like blue would work if corner exit would improve.3/8 mile semi bank track. driver trying to use rf more then he did with old black front or when we ran orange front.
    any help in getting us in right direction would be appreciated
  • MBR Performance
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 199

    #2
    First by taking the LR spacer off you removed drive. How much drop do you have in the LR and what angle is the LR top rod at full drop?

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    • kslle
      Member
      • May 2007
      • 52

      #3
      taking spacer out added 20lbs bite so we thought that would help.
      lr angle 48 degree. 16 inch drop from bottom of frame tab to top of bolt on shock bracket where rocket measures it.

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      • MBR Performance
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 199

        #4
        Drop your left side % to 53.7 and up your rear % to 54.2-54.4

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        • MBR Performance
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 199

          #5
          I realize it'll make the car weight more but it's better to have the correct balance rather than worry about total weight

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          • kslle
            Member
            • May 2007
            • 52

            #6
            thanks. we'll try that. why would spacer take away drive

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            • MBR Performance
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 199

              #7
              Taking the spacer off takes away drive.

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              • Matt49
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 3123

                #8
                Originally posted by dkibel
                The further away the tire is from the spring the less drive you have because you are having to push the tire down harder when it is further away. Imagine a 10lb weight on a stick. When your hand is right next to the weight you can rotate it fairly easily. Now imagine your hand a foot away from the stick. Its much harder to rotate. You have to exert more force to get the same 10lb weight to move. This is exactly what is happening with your drive.
                You're describing a moment of inertia problem which is not at all what is happening when you move the LR tire in or out. Bottom line is that moving the LR out (using a wheel spacer) will make the car tighter on exit...often described as more drive but not exactly the same thing...

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                • kslle
                  Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 52

                  #9
                  thanks for suggestions. added wt. to help correct percentage and car was much better and looked better on track even though we were heavy. i think if we could take off front wt. we wouldn't need to add so much.

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                  • Punisher88
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 495

                    #10
                    Can you move the fuel cell in the car? I've done that to compensate for a lighter or heavier engine and it works well.

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                    • Kwoods25
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 455

                      #11
                      That's odd we have never had any problems with drive off in our orange with blue front. We always had way to much. But if you need any help just pm me

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                      • nolimits9
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 182

                        #12
                        Same here my orange with the blue grey front gets killer forward drive even in the real slick.

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                        • DEKconsulting
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 234

                          #13
                          I would rather have a car a little heavy with %s right than a light car w/out the %s right. The heavy car will win everytime.

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