Camaro Clip Leaf Car vs Metric 4 link car

[JustAddDirt]

blue oval

hush your mouth justadddirt, your telling to much , us poor ole blue oval racers need a break...LOL.....

lol... I understand. mouth shut from here on out.
I'm out

[oilman]

Leaf cars are not very competitive around here anymore.

[a25rjr]

Leaf cars are not very competitive around here anymore.

Not here either. A few builders like Rocketman, are winning everything!

[7uptruckracer]

Depends on the rules both can win.

[7uptruckracer]

I have a metric stomping Camaros up North, but I still believe if the guys in the camaros knew what in the world they were doing and stopped working about the monte they would be winning races

[Dirt_Buster]

Camaros can't get through the corner if their life depended on it. Simply a drive off car. Metric can get you the speed by carrying way more momentum. Love watching the "fast boy" set ups get smoked in the dry. It's hilarious.

[IAMN21]

Well said 7uptruckracer. LOL many setups other than the fast boy setup. I laughed all the way to the pay window many nights on those dry slick tracks watching the metric guys scratch their head wondering what happened. After getting through the corners quite well.

[7uptruckracer]

Just look at the pros and cons I've said it many time here. Metic con is the high rear roll center that inhibits sidebite. Camaro Leaf rear has low rear roll center good sitebite but that can hurt entry (if you don't make sure you free it up) the pro is they have good front end geometry but I will say its better for asphalt front end wise for what I try to do with them. The low rear roll center can shine in the slick but you have to make sure the good rear side bite is matched with good front grip because if you have to break rear traction to turn the car you are sunk which is what I see against the car I setup week in and week out. The rules are key to which is better. A Camaro with Jacking Bolt slider rears or even no sliders and aftermarket uppers in the front and maybe one other rule and I think it can really stand a chance to hurting a mertric with the same rules but a Stock metric link rear.

[JustAddDirt]

key is rear toe in on the leaf springs. 75 up nova has more than Camaro, but manipulating it makes a world of difference.
relocating the upper a arm mounts is also very critical to the whole package.
taking out anti-dive is huge as well
Ford parts on the GM also makes a large difference.

lost of little tricks.
I built one last year for a friend. if he had balls enough to drive it, it would not lose a race.
he put another gentlemen in car that has a wining metric, and he said he has never driven anything like it. he now wants one built.

[7uptruckracer]

Ahh don't go telling too much now lol we work hard for our secrets

key is rear toe in on the leaf springs. 75 up nova has more than Camaro, but manipulating it makes a world of difference.
relocating the upper a arm mounts is also very critical to the whole package.
taking out anti-dive is huge as well
Ford parts on the GM also makes a large difference.

lost of little tricks.
I built one last year for a friend. if he had balls enough to drive it, it would not lose a race.
he put another gentlemen in car that has a wining metric, and he said he has never driven anything like it. he now wants one built.

[JustAddDirt]

Ahh don't go telling too much now lol we work hard for our secrets

mentioning it, understanding it, an applying it, are totally different worlds....lol

[Wrenchead84]

hey guys first post here. glad to see an active forum about dirt racing. that being said, let me get into this one here... i have a nova - what we call hobby stock some call street stock. ( full stock chassis with regards to mounting points, stock steal roof, stock floor pan) we have alot of camaros, lots of nova, and a few metric coil cars. one coil car in particular come out this year ans started whooping our butts. i believe most of the leaf guys are using the same setup we have used for the last idk 10 yrs or so. so what can i do different??

[klv8lm]

OK, lets take it one step further. I am the OP and since I made the original post, I bought a car. I bought neither. What I settled on was a 68-72 Chevelle. I am hoping the improved front geometry on the Chevelle will make up for the faults of the Metric and give me the best of both worlds.

[Wrenchead84]

I was under the impression from previous posts the camaros were the best with the leaf rear and the better front end geometry

[Dirt_Buster]

Camaros are a thing of the past. Can't get momentum/center speed outta them. Ditch them and know how to set up a car at every corner and have it work for you. The camaros will bind up and simply suck through the center. Diamond corner car and that's it. Big half Mike stuff they get raped. Point and shoot they stand a chance but annoying when you're in a faster metric car through the center of corners.