soft front springs on monte carlo

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  • cyclone05
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 45

    #1

    soft front springs on monte carlo

    has any one tried soft springs on the front of their metric cars? im thinking somewhere around 900lf 800rf?
  • Dirtman29
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1690

    #2
    Depends on your entire setup, years ago in my old SS, I had a 1000# spring in the RF and car pushed like a dumptruck! Went to a 1300# and it fixed it. IMO, your rates would be a bit too soft in the front.

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    • Dirtrunner35
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 632

      #3
      In my front metric clip car I had 1050 lf and 900 rf. Depends on the rest of the car.

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      • ToddSmith16
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2854

        #4
        Lowest I have ever gone is:

        LF: 950 and RF: 1050

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        • racer96x
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 41

          #5
          seat time

          you just need to learn to handle your car (seat time) you can have any spring you want and adjust your driving style to it.(i had stock springs and racing springs) i have raced on dirt and asphalt with the same set up and had the same results. tire stagger is the biggest thing to have correct. the more from left to right the better.
          If it is a penny for your thoughts, and you put your 2 cents in...someone's keeping a penny

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          • Graff Spee
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 881

            #6
            Figure out your motion ratio as per the spring placement in the conrtol arm. Then figure out the wheel rate needed. Spring car accordingly. The rates of the springs mean nothing. You just have to achieve that wheel rate. Its all dependant on motion ratio.

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            • checkersorwreckers
              Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 74

              #7
              please explain what you mean graff

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              • dirty white boy
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 1238

                #8
                Originally posted by checkersorwreckers View Post
                please explain what you mean graff
                its a books worth of explaining....an has been writin by several....good luck
                white trash motorsports

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                • checkersorwreckers
                  Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 74

                  #9
                  Well where can i find this information

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                  • Moldymulldoon
                    Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 59

                    #10
                    Find out how much shock travel you have. IF you have alot travel get a stiffer spring. Put ziptie on shock... simple deal really.
                    Obviously won't work on rough track.

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                    • Graff Spee
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 881

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Moldymulldoon View Post
                      Find out how much shock travel you have. IF you have alot travel get a stiffer spring. Put ziptie on shock... simple deal really.
                      Obviously won't work on rough track.
                      Good answer!!! Use a shock travel indicator to get to about four inches of wheel travel. Wheel travel not shock travel. Spring car to achieve this.

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                      • checkersorwreckers
                        Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 74

                        #12
                        How would you measure wheel travel? I am currently getting about 3 inches of shock travel

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                        • let-r-eat
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2319

                          #13
                          Take spring out/set car at ride height/measure shock/measure fender to axle centerline/collapse shock 3"/measure fender to axle centerline again.....There are ways to do it with the motion ratio/length of control arm-pivot points-spring location-math/but this is the way you can find out how much wheel travel per inch of shock travel. 4" is a good rule of thumb on dirt. More travel-more spring......less travel-less spring.
                          BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                          • dirttrackrocker
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 664

                            #14
                            The motion ratio on a stock Metric is 23%. Chevelle is 36%, Metric with Nova lowers is 30%. Meaning if you have a stock metric and put a 1000# spring in it, you have 230# at the ball joint. To get the same thing with a Chevelle you only need a 650# spring. I have to run at least a 1000# on the RF of my Metric clip mod or it bottoms out. I would say with a stock car with motor in relatively stock location, I wouldn't go under 1100 on the RF. Just my opinion..

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                            • stock car driver
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 3233

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dirttrackrocker View Post
                              The motion ratio on a stock Metric is 23%. Chevelle is 36%, Metric with Nova lowers is 30%. Meaning if you have a stock metric and put a 1000# spring in it, you have 230# at the ball joint. To get the same thing with a Chevelle you only need a 650# spring. I have to run at least a 1000# on the RF of my Metric clip mod or it bottoms out. I would say with a stock car with motor in relatively stock location, I wouldn't go under 1100 on the RF. Just my opinion..
                              Ive stiffened my front end this season to try and bottom out on the track less. Im all the way up to a 800/700 in my metric from a 650/630 the last two seasons. this is on a full body street stock that i race at 3050-3200.

                              If u need a 1000 in a mod your running your car way too low or driving thru holes the size of tires.

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