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  • 3dinter
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 235

    #1

    Metric Chassis Setup Help....

    I run a 84 Monte and seems to be tight on entry pushes in mid turn & and loose on exit. The entire chassis is stock and nothing has been cut or moved, in our class we have to run a OEM stock chassis, no weight jacks or brake adjuster all stock. It has LF 1100 RF 1000 LR 200 RR 175. The track is 1/4 semi banked track and goes dry slick at the end of most nights. Pro Adjustable stock shocks all the way around with Hoosier asphalt slicks #2045 on a 8" rim w/2" offset all the way around, usually on lf 11 rf 15 lr 10 rr 10 with 3/4" spacer on RR and 1" spacer on LR. Probably about 100 lbs of lead directly above the rearend & evenly spaced across the rearend. The car is new for the 2011 season & it has several feature and heat race wins you can view on Youtube at http://www.youtube.com/user/3DInterceptor for IN CAR CAM and grandstand videos to possibly help for setup ideas.
    What ideas can you give to help with the setup problem...???
    Last edited by 3dinter; 11-11-2011, 03:46 PM.
  • dirt daddy
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 34

    #2
    Take spacers out of rear put 1 of them n the lf add a few lbs 2 rr & put a stiffer spring n lr
    Demon Chassis

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    • dirt daddy
      Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 34

      #3
      Few lbs of air n rr sr
      Demon Chassis

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      • 3dinter
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 235

        #4
        Originally posted by dirt daddy View Post
        Take spacers out of rear put 1 of them n the lf add a few lbs 2 rr & put a stiffer spring n lr
        I have to at least use a 1/2" spacer on rr otherwise the tire will rub inside of frame.

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        • 3dinter
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 235

          #5
          stock car driver add more bite

          that is make the left rear heavier more than the rr

          that will free up entry and tighten off

          if its too tight in the middle as you add bite, then add stagger.

          how do you add stagger, what do you mean ?
          im a lil slow on this term...

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          • connor
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 167

            #6
            stagger

            stagger means bigger tire roll out on right side than left side

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            • 3dinter
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 235

              #7
              Originally posted by stock car driver
              With your tires 2-3 psi to the rr tire should increase the stagger.

              rear stagger helps the car turn in the middle and drive off the corner


              As mentioned above stagger is the rr larger than the lr.

              I run my fronts even but dont measure them often. I only worry about rear stagger.
              makes sense now you put it that way, appreciate the help.

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              • 3dinter
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 235

                #8
                To stock car driver

                Originally posted by stock car driver
                With your tires 2-3 psi to the rr tire should increase the stagger.

                rear stagger helps the car turn in the middle and drive off the corner


                As mentioned above stagger is the rr larger than the lr.

                I run my fronts even but dont measure them often. I only worry about rear stagger.
                What kinda tires y'all run ? That abilene video your car looks really hooked up,,,seems like you run your rear kinda high...?? I also see alot of y'all run nose pieces,,what do u do to keep it cool ?? I got 2 row 19by28 afco with 15" 6 blade steel with no restrictors anywhere and just recently installed a shroud...tried 4 blade with & without shroud...come off 10 laps temp running 220 to 250. Haven't tried 6 blade yet.
                Last edited by 3dinter; 11-24-2011, 06:30 AM.

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                • TeamTerminator
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 38

                  #9
                  Make sure u have 1-1 pulleys on it too. good shroud with fan 1/2 in 1/2out of shroud. I also have the smallest afco double pass radiator in mine but dont think its a nessecity as others keep engines cool with single pass radiators.

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                  • racer110
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 152

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 3dinter View Post
                    What kinda tires y'all run ? That abilene video your car looks really hooked up,,,seems like you run your rear kinda high...?? I also see alot of y'all run nose pieces,,what do u do to keep it cool ?? I got 2 row 19by28 afco with 15" 6 blade steel with no restrictors anywhere and just recently installed a shroud...tried 4 blade with & without shroud...come off 10 laps temp running 220 to 250. Haven't tried 6 blade yet.
                    Buy a set of restrictors, I always used the blue one. I believe it has s 3/4 inch hole. You have to have a restrictor or the water flows to fast, it does't have enough time in the radiator to cool down.

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                    • 3dinter
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 235

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TeamTerminator View Post
                      Make sure u have 1-1 pulleys on it too. good shroud with fan 1/2 in 1/2out of shroud. I also have the smallest afco double pass radiator in mine but dont think its a nessecity as others keep engines cool with single pass radiators.
                      yep, i got 1 to 1 and i just recently made a shroud and like you said it sits about half in and half out. our season is over down here so it maybe next year before i get to try it.

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                      • 3dinter
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 235

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stock car driver
                        Nice looking shroud, looks like it covers all 4 corners quite well.
                        Last edited by 3dinter; 11-30-2011, 08:31 AM.

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                        • 3dinter
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 235

                          #13
                          Originally posted by racer110 View Post
                          Buy a set of restrictors, I always used the blue one. I believe it has s 3/4 inch hole. You have to have a restrictor or the water flows to fast, it does't have enough time in the radiator to cool down.
                          i tried the lower hose restictor, and the three sizes for the upper hose in the h20 neck with and without a shroud & 4 blade..still nothing seemed to work. im gonna just keep trying different options till i get it the lowest i can.
                          Last edited by 3dinter; 11-30-2011, 08:32 AM.

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                          • brad hibbard
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 974

                            #14
                            Fan fan fan

                            4 blade GM fan NOT an aftermarket copy----GM #405442

                            90% of your problem

                            Brad
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                            • 3dinter
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 235

                              #15
                              Originally posted by brad hibbard View Post
                              4 blade GM fan NOT an aftermarket copy----GM #405442

                              90% of your problem

                              Brad
                              www.race-1.com
                              I think i have the Afco 4 blade...i took it down to the GM dealer and compared it to the afco and i didnt see a difference in blade pitch or length or placement of the blades.

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