Leaf Spring IMCA-Stock Car?

[gun91]

Excuse me mr stock car driver, sorry for doubting your greatness. I just just ain't on your level man. Doubt I will ever get there.

[Driver88]

Come on guys. We all know there is more than one way to skin a cat. And all that matters is that ya dont get hair all over the meat when ya are done.
Both opinions are appreciated. I maybe wrong but, I think thats what this board is all about different ideas and helping fellow drivers.

[gun91]

What's stupid is thinking that a car will go around any track just as good with no changes. Maybe you car was fast enough but with a lil tweek it would have been faster. Unless all 18 tracks had the same turn radius, you ran the same line at em all, banking was the same, moisture in the track or lack of was the same, etc. Kinda hard to believe that there is that many identical tracks in the country!

[gun91]

You ain't helping nobody saying that you or anybody else don't need to change their car ever. Never learn anything if you don't make changes, so the guys on this board that listen to you may find em ONE setup for one track then will be scared to change when they need too.

All I did was reply to the guy about if a leaf car was as good and gave an example of how a metric was more veritile. If changing you bar angles for different track conditions didn't help the WHY on earth do mods and latemodels have extra holes for their suspensions? You find a late or mod guy that DONT MOVE their bars around for different tracks and you will find one that don't consistently run up front!!! I know their suspensions ate different but the faster you can go around a turn WITHOUT sliding the tires or spinning, the faster the car will be.!!!! Say what you want bout how stupid you think I am or call me whatever you want to but that's the facts man

[gun91]

Seriously are you really an adult as in over 18 years old?

None of the 18 tracks are the same. They are ALL dirt though, lol.. Some sand, some clay, some black dirt....

Im not asking for your help with set up, lol...

I ain't offering you help but was trying to help the original poster and thanks for the link but I make my own rear end brackets and most everything else I can too I don't buy em

[T_Spencer]

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Your the one with the attitude in this thread... nobody has challenged anyones replys except you.

Now that's the hypocritical statement of the year right there !! I read this forum alot and those two things define you Jeff ...attitude and challenges.

Go back up and look at your response to Dirt2's post. You were the ONLY one to challenge him. Saying you would like to know "where these cars are". All too common with you.

Your a piece of work man. Being competitive is fine, but give it a break sometime. You're a grown man now.

[dirt2]

I dont change anything on my car from track to track and my at the track adjustments are two shocks and a piece of lead on either the rf lf or lr... I never adjust my screw jacks or change my trailing arm angles.

Id like to know where dirt2 has all these leaf IMCA stock cars.

Look back at my post, no where does it say these cars are IMCA.
The question asked can you make a leaf car as fast or faster than
a coil car in imca. YES I CAN, you might not have the know how but
i do. Also work with some very fast coil cars that have won championships.

dirt2

[dirt2]

No.

I built a leaf car in 04 ran it half of 04 all of 05.

My full sized chevelle coil car was faster than the leaf car on day one.

My metric was faster than the chevelle on day one.

My leaf car was 2430 race ready no driver no lead, I dont think you could build a better car, it was offset to the max pushed the leaf mounts way into the grey area.

I lost 60-75lb of spring rate in the left rear spring per night. NEW lr spring every night would be needed for a consistent set up night to night, I had custom made leafs done locally that were only 65 each and 11 inch arch even and still never looked back after building a coil car.

In this case i would say you & your custom spring builder both were out of the
ball park on the springs. Sorry champ you posted that you couldn't get a leafer
to work,not me.

dirt2

[dirt2]

Where did I say it didnt work? Try reading again and reading slower.

As I suspected NO leaf cars consistently successfull in IMCA, lol...Thanks for confirming.

I don't have to go back & reread anything slower or faster to read between the
lines that you posted. You just plain didn't know what you were doing.
Not going to waste my time on you, go get into bed call mom to wipe
your azz & shut up. The end.
dirt2

[Hammer]

One question...

Is it possible to get a leaf spring car to run with a metric car, IMCA stock.

Can the leaf spring setup be tuned and played with enough to get it through the turns as good as a metric car can? Would it be competative? thanks

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original question said imca stock^^^^^^^^^^^

Sure is,have six different leaf car running now.
Last season four won track champion ships &
two finished up very good. All in knowing what
to do & how to set them up.

dirt2

your answer above with his quote i took as your cars were imca cars.in which i think SCD took also jmo




Ihave no dog in this pissing match but if you read what some people post and go back and think there not answering the question that was asked.i could of answered my buddy eat everybody's lunch in a nova back in the day 50 + wins, until guys started figuring out the metrics, but i don't race in imca and just didn't want to stick my foot in my mouth answering the question that was toward imca cars..Not picking on you Dirt2 sorry..

[racerkrp1]

Leafs

I always loose right rear weight on my leaf car...

[a1driver]

i'd have thought that a hot shoe like stock car, who runs 3-5 nights a week would have more wins than 3 in a year, maybe he needs to do a little more home work than he realizes.

[dirty white boy]

every body likes what thay like an thinks its best but each must find there own way in the end,...no imca round here but it really depends on track,..as banking,configuration an the dirt along with what tire's and set up skills,..leafs like tacky an high banking,...but coil cars have more money left after spring bill is paid,...the good bout the metrics is there rear suspension but the front ends need lotta tweek'in to get'um to quit pushin like a dump truck,...a carmaro front an metric back should be best of both worlds,...wanta see a nova street stock with lotta current checkards check out freindship speedway in elkin nc

[dirty white boy]

thats a waste,..bet it would be a fast car!! on a side note,..watched that friendship nova run door handle to door handle with a bad on metric 7 laps of heat race an full 25 lap feature last night! nether one had a advantage!!

[really?]

i work on both leaf and coils and they are both good, leafs are alot more maintenance involved. we have coil cars beating camaros in arkansas, but we have yet to take a coil car to batesville which is dominated every year by camaros even though some coil cars make the show they go backwards in the slick and thats usually the case in that situation. no offense stock car driver but i watch one of our local mid pack guys lap you at a show i believe it was in ill. and if you have your front end right a metric car will work much better when you get 54% rear but every situation is different and the guy that runs atwood tn. ,dont worry the cars in your neck of the woods are a WHOLE lot faster than stockcardrivers. they just need more big shows up north to give guys the oppotunity to branch out, cause your only as good as the guys you race with, thats how a guy wins lets say locally and then travels and gets lapped!