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[save the racers]

What brand serpentine pulley are you using.I am going to serpentine this year is there anything to be careful about?I only have the water pump on the front.

[Racer96m]

Jones. Only way to go. Worth every cent IMO.

Dave

[72Dubya]

x3 on the Jones serpentine. No slippage on our SS or Mod. Great products.

[Racer96m]

Call Jones and talk with Tech people. They will tell you all V belts slip. Cogged or no. Serpentine doesnt slip because of much greater surface area contact with pulley. If your serpentine belt is correct size, you arent going to be able to install it with water pump installed. If you buy Jones or not, worth a call, they are very helpful.

Dave

[Racer96m]

I run a 4 blade GM fan. The belt is indexed to TDC and does not slip. Cant imagine why you would need a Gilmer belt system on your IMCA Crate motor. I run more RPM and have twice the HP you do. I run exactly what Jones recommends for the cup motors. But whatever you have to do to get it turning the correct speed and not slip. My point was to make people aware of what is actually happening and why.

Dave

[powerslide]

Call Jones and talk with Tech people. They will tell you all V belts slip. Cogged or no. Serpentine doesnt slip because of much greater surface area contact with pulley. If your serpentine belt is correct size, you arent going to be able to install it with water pump installed. If you buy Jones or not, worth a call, they are very helpful.

Dave

are you saying you have to leave the water pump loose then get the belt on then tighten the pump?

[Racer96m]

I give up Dave, Im sure everything Jones has told me as one of their dealers is wrong. They built the gilmer for no reason, serpentine was fine they just felt like building something else.


I don't know what cup motors are is that a coffee stirrer? I didn't know jones sold kitchen stuff.

Sorry Jeff, for an instant I forgot you know everything about everything. You are a trip

Dave

[Racer96m]

are you saying you have to leave the water pump loose then get the belt on then tighten the pump?

Im almost afraid to answer this, Maybe SCD should tell you? But yes, there is no way to get a correctly sized surp belt on with the water pump installed. You leave the pump loose get belt on and tighten pump. My good friend who builds Winston "Cup" motors at PME down in Morsville NC had to tell me the trick to get it on. And SCD, dont care who Na$car sells out to, will always be Winston Cup to me.

Dave

[Racer96m]

lol, Im sure you've heard the term the pot calling the kettle black..

LOL, OK Mr Kettle

[powerslide]

That's how I did my v-belt, thought it would be bad for the bearings in the pump but only way I could get it to stay tight. Thought I might be able to get away from it with a serpentine everyone says how great they are. So either keep up my old ways or get a tensioner. Thanks Dave and everyone else. Even you scd good buddy I mean pot err ughh are you kettle?

[Racer96m]

Im embarrassed for you that someone had to tell you how to put your belts on, if common sense were common everyone would have it. No wonder you've only got so few accomplishments to list in your signature.

And this coming from the guy that couldn't get his tight, thats funny Jeff, you do have a sense of humor. And thanks for being a fan and following our accomplishments, message me your address and size and I'll get a shirt out to you. Dont forget to give us a like us on FB!

Dave

[Racer96m]

I doubt there are many guys running rear mount ps pumps on street stocks, so I would bet they can just tension their belts with their ps pump...

For the person the left the reputation comment: I guess I didnt make it clear. I only have a serpentine belt from the crank to the water pump. I dont run a rear mount PS pump, it's front mount, driven by a V belt off a crank mandrel mounted pulley. The PS belt wont slip because there isnt a big 4 blade fan causing all the drag hooked to it. With no tensioner from the crank to the water pump, you can imagine how hard it is to get on, because its banjo string tight.

Dave

[save the racers]

Some stewart water pumps will have sloted mounting holes with a set screw on top.So you can tighten the belts after the water pump is mounted.I have sloted the holes and added set screw on other pumps to get alittle adjustment.