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  • Hodrod7
    Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 64

    #1

    Roll Center

    Roll Center? Right/left? Above/below? How much? What's the rule of thumb? 3400 lbs metric car.
  • Racer96m
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 425

    #2
    Static RC isnt as important as Dynamic RC. You need to know where your RC is moving towards under suspension load. You can map the static on paper but you will need a program to understand the Dynamic. Keeping the Dynamic from moving all over the place is the key. A well designed front end will keep the Dynamic in a 5" area from static. So bottom line is to have a more stable and consistent setup. You wont have that with big Dynamic swings. 4" above is a good generic start, left of center will get over on the right easier. Remember under Dynamic load your RC will be moving to the right, so if your design kept that movement to 5" and at static it was centered, you would end up 5" to the right. If you want to get over on the right more start the static a couple inches to the left or vice versa. I hope you can follow that.

    Dave
    2012 UMP Stock Car National Champions.
    2013 UMP Modified Rookie of the Year
    2014 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
    2016 Fairbury American Legion Speedway UMP Modified Champion
    2016 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
    2016 UMP Modified, Northen IL Regional Champion
    2018 UMP Modified, #2 National Points Standings
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    • Hodrod7
      Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 64

      #3
      I follow it very well! Thank You

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      • routierracing
        Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 53

        #4
        Originally posted by Racer96m View Post
        Static RC isnt as important as Dynamic RC. You need to know where your RC is moving towards under suspension load. You can map the static on paper but you will need a program to understand the Dynamic. Keeping the Dynamic from moving all over the place is the key. A well designed front end will keep the Dynamic in a 5" area from static. So bottom line is to have a more stable and consistent setup. You wont have that with big Dynamic swings. 4" above is a good generic start, left of center will get over on the right easier. Remember under Dynamic load your RC will be moving to the right, so if your design kept that movement to 5" and at static it was centered, you would end up 5" to the right. If you want to get over on the right more start the static a couple inches to the left or vice versa. I hope you can follow that.

        Dave
        Can you recommend a user friendly roll center program?

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        • Hodrod7
          Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 64

          #5
          Good question!

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          • Racer96m
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 425

            #6
            Originally posted by routierracing View Post
            Can you recommend a user friendly roll center program?
            I use the Race Wise software. I like it, but I wouldnt recommend it to the average racer. Its 3D so that complicates everything with all the X,Y and Z axis measurements. You only need 2D to understand whats going on and its infinitely easier to set up and use. Chassis R&D makes some easy to use 2D software "Advanced Chassis Geometry " that will show static and Dynamic RC, just might be the best $100 bucks you ever spent.

            Dave
            2012 UMP Stock Car National Champions.
            2013 UMP Modified Rookie of the Year
            2014 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
            2016 Fairbury American Legion Speedway UMP Modified Champion
            2016 Kankakee Speedway UMP Modified Champion
            2016 UMP Modified, Northen IL Regional Champion
            2018 UMP Modified, #2 National Points Standings
            Like us on Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/McKinneyMotorsports

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            • RCJ
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 509

              #7
              Performance trends has a wide range of programs.

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              • Dirtrunner35
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 632

                #8



                I HAVE THE ONE FROM R+D WITH LOTS OF DUST ON IT

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                • Hodrod7
                  Member
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 64

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dirtrunner35 View Post
                  http://www.auto-ware.com/software/asgp/asgp.htm I HAVE THE ONE FROM R+D WITH LOTS OF DUST ON IT
                  Dust on it because you didn't like it or ?

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