Pinto VS Mustang... Decisions, Decisions

[Dan32]

pobort,
again not much for good conversation, are ya... again last post here, same as other

lol he's about retarded as they get!! good call! he talks alot and listens none!! real ignorant that GUY!!!!![ pobort ]

[return to dirt]

with sorry rear suspension!!

actually you can make the rear leafs work pretty good. set them up somewhat like a fastboys setup and they can work as good as a mustang. i have about 12in travel on my right rear which can help on rough tracks and rear steer.

olin

[Double W Racin']

actually you can make the rear leafs work pretty good. set them up somewhat like a fastboys setup and they can work as good as a mustang. i have about 12in travel on my right rear which can help on rough tracks and rear steer.

olin

What exactly is a "Fastboys Setup"? will in work on asphault?

[ATOYOTA]

Maybe you should forget that old antique ford stuff and look into something a bit more modern, with a lot of parts availability and performance. Think about it a stock dohc neon puts out over 150hp a stock 2.3 ford is like 90. How much money do you need to spend to get to 150?

[r3tracing]

have to agree with dan 32 he is pretty ignorant

[ATOYOTA]

INSTEAD OF LOWERING YOURSELF TO THAT LEVEL WHY DON'T YOU JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING SAID AND ONLY STAY ON THE EXACT SUBJECT!!!! INTERJECTING INSULTS JUST SHOWS YOUR LEVEL OF MATURITY IS EVEN LOWER THAN HIS. AFTERALL I SEE NOTHING WHERE HE'S CALLING THE GUY NAMES LIKE YOU GUYS ARE.

READ ALL HIS POSTS STARTS OUT WITH ADVANTAGE OF PINTO WITH VALID POINTS,
2ND POST POSTED VERY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHASSIS HANDLING ISSUES ASKED VALID QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MANS SETUP.
3RD POST ASKS ANOTHER VALID QUESTION/STATEMENT EXACTLY TO EVERFASTER NO INSULS NO SMART ALEC STATEMENT
4TH POST WAS DIRECTED AT EVERFAST REGARDING COMPLAINING COMPETITORS
5TH POST POINTED OUT EVERFASTER MAKING A CONTRADICTORY STATEMENT

DAN 32 STARTED THE INSULTS TOWARD A GUY THAT DID NOTHING WRONG (IMHO). THEN YOU OTHER YAHOOS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON AND GARBAGE UP THE ORIGINAL POST AND OFFERED ABSOLUTELY NO ADVICE TO HELP THE op.

[return to dirt]

What exactly is a "Fastboys Setup"? will in work on asphault?

go to the open wheel modified section. look down the postings until it lists fast boys by scooter40. it is used mainly on mods but can be used on other classes. i set my springs up a lot like scooter describes but can't run the floater or the long shackle. the front of the spring acts almost like a solid link with all the spring action happening behind the axle. i've never heard of it being used on pavement.

olin

[r3tracing]

the exact subject was pinto or mustang . how did antique ford and neon get in there then

[ATOYOTA]

Really???/ you want to start attacking me for suggesting an alternative? Come on i see nothing that you offered what so ever. NOTICE WORDING LIKE "MAYBE" AS FOR ANTIQUE, ANY VEHICLE OVER 20 YEARS OLD IS CONSIDERED AN ANTIQUE IN MY STATE AND YOU CAN GET SPECIAL COLLECTOR PLATES. LAST YEAR FOR 4 CYL MUSTANG 1993 (18 YEARS AGO) LAST YEAR FOR PINTO 1980 (31 YEARS AGO).

THE NEON IS LIKE THE "PINTO" 15+ YEARS AGO. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU FOUND A PINTO IN A JUNKYARD. I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE IN OVER 8 YEARS. SEEMS A LOT OF MUSTANGS THAT ARE 1/2 DECENT ARE GETTING TURNED INTO DRAG CARS IF YOU CAN EVEN FIND ONE FOR A GOOD PRICE. 15 YEARS AGO WE WERE BUYING FOX MUSTANGS THAT EVEN RAN FOR UNDER $200. WITH JUNK PRICE FINDING ANY MUSTANG IS GETTING NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR UNDER $800

[Egoracing]

I would look at parts in the area and what is winning. If you can get pinto parts then go for it as you have one, they can win, and it will save you money. The Mustangs can win but you would have to start from scratch or buy one. When Pintos were plentiful you could not get someone to build a mustang if you gave it to them ready to race, same with metric full size and a chevelle/camaro chassis, now strut cars and metrics are the norm. There are some good options for a FED car but the rules at some tracks do not allow FWD cars in any class but there own.
The pinstang has been done and they are fast, they are actually more trouble to build than a full tube chassis. The cars that were done ran in Florida on asphalt and dirt and were built when I was at Midwest Motorsports. There are also some 4 link camaro clip 80's montecarlos running around and a 70's camaro clip, 90's camaro 4 link with a Montecarlo body on it. The rules do not let a Camaro run but a monte is Ok.
To do the Pinstang we would cut the floorboard off at the turn up of the firewall. The reason we cut it there was we could place square tubing into the frame and hide the connection better and brace it with the cage. You have to modify the pinto clip to get it to line up the best but then level the suspension with blocks and then build the cage on it. You can even shorten the chassis to run the pinto body OR leave it longer for the mustang body.

[Double W Racin']

Maybe you should forget that old antique ford stuff and look into something a bit more modern, with a lot of parts availability and performance. Think about it a stock dohc neon puts out over 150hp a stock 2.3 ford is like 90. How much money do you need to spend to get to 150?

We've been racing Ford 2.3 rear wheel drive off and on for the past 13 years. I've built up a fairly good assortment of stuff. Not sure I wanna scrap all of that stuff and start anew. Just call me a creatcher of habit. I can at least use the motor, tranny, wheels/tires from my Pinto on the Mustang.

They jury is still out on all of this. I am going to have the car put on a frame machine and find out if all of the points are in their correct places first.

[ATOYOTA]

I understand that aspect. I went thru the same thing some years ago with the fords had all the stuff was fairly fast. But the neons came out and started whooping butt. I didn't want to run the same thing (dont care much for dodges). So i sold off all my ford stuff and went toyota. First year out 4th in points. Never did that good with the fords and twice the investment just in my motor.

HERE'S A THOUGHT. I'VE SEEN ESCORTS DO WELL AND ONE GUY HAS A PINTO MOTOR IN THE ESCORT. APPEARANTLY THE 2.0 BOLTS UP TO THE ESCORT TRANS.

[Dan32]

Maybe you should forget that old antique ford stuff and look into something a bit more modern, with a lot of parts availability and performance. Think about it a stock dohc neon puts out over 150hp a stock 2.3 ford is like 90. How much money do you need to spend to get to 150?

u went from rear wheel drive to front!!! most tracks want let them run together!!

[Dan32]

INSTEAD OF LOWERING YOURSELF TO THAT LEVEL WHY DON'T YOU JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING SAID AND ONLY STAY ON THE EXACT SUBJECT!!!! INTERJECTING INSULTS JUST SHOWS YOUR LEVEL OF MATURITY IS EVEN LOWER THAN HIS. AFTERALL I SEE NOTHING WHERE HE'S CALLING THE GUY NAMES LIKE YOU GUYS ARE.

READ ALL HIS POSTS STARTS OUT WITH ADVANTAGE OF PINTO WITH VALID POINTS,
2ND POST POSTED VERY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHASSIS HANDLING ISSUES ASKED VALID QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MANS SETUP.
3RD POST ASKS ANOTHER VALID QUESTION/STATEMENT EXACTLY TO EVERFASTER NO INSULS NO SMART ALEC STATEMENT
4TH POST WAS DIRECTED AT EVERFAST REGARDING COMPLAINING COMPETITORS
5TH POST POINTED OUT EVERFASTER MAKING A CONTRADICTORY STATEMENT

DAN 32 STARTED THE INSULTS TOWARD A GUY THAT DID NOTHING WRONG (IMHO). THEN YOU OTHER YAHOOS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON AND GARBAGE UP THE ORIGINAL POST AND OFFERED ABSOLUTELY NO ADVICE TO HELP THE op.

ok yota u called me out!! u might wanna spend some time reading and stop typing! pobort is all over this board with nothing more than stupied remarks < if u like his remarks and wanna take his advice go for it!! but ive won well over a hundred races in a mustang !! and beat lots of yotas and pintos !! so there u have my in put!!

[Dan32]

We've been racing Ford 2.3 rear wheel drive off and on for the past 13 years. I've built up a fairly good assortment of stuff. Not sure I wanna scrap all of that stuff and start anew. Just call me a creatcher of habit. I can at least use the motor, tranny, wheels/tires from my Pinto on the Mustang.

They jury is still out on all of this. I am going to have the car put on a frame machine and find out if all of the points are in their correct places first.

a mustang will be ur better bet !!