2.3 rod and head bolts

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  • camarofever
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 85

    #16
    Originally posted by grydergeyer26 View Post
    jimmy will want studs i know him very well just giving u a heads up
    hahahaha he just ordered them up for me today. Said the stock bolts belong in the trash.

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    • drtlvr
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 233

      #17
      I've never had a problem with using thick washers or cutting the bolts off. Never saw the need for studs. Just an extra expense for me.

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      • camarofever
        Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 85

        #18
        Originally posted by drtlvr View Post
        I've never had a problem with using thick washers or cutting the bolts off. Never saw the need for studs. Just an extra expense for me.
        so your saying i should keep the old 12 points just for good measure? http://www.4m.net/images/smilies/eek.png

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        • drtlvr
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 233

          #19
          I would hang on to them. You might use them in a back up motor.

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          • camarofever
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 85

            #20
            ok everyone, i got my engine out and pulled the pan off. There is no stamping on my rod bolts or nuts. They are 6 point nuts and a 14mm socket fits them. NOT 13mm. I cant see the head of the bolt, but I felt them with my finger and they are smooth (no stamping) with a dome to them. From pictures the arp rod bolts have ARP stamped on the head, but im not sure if thats how they are in reality. Can anyone help me tell if these are stock bolts or not?

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            • car62
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1579

              #21
              Originally posted by camarofever View Post
              ok everyone, i got my engine out and pulled the pan off. There is no stamping on my rod bolts or nuts. They are 6 point nuts and a 14mm socket fits them. NOT 13mm. I cant see the head of the bolt, but I felt them with my finger and they are smooth (no stamping) with a dome to them. From pictures the arp rod bolts have ARP stamped on the head, but im not sure if thats how they are in reality. Can anyone help me tell if these are stock bolts or not?
              They could be Pioneer rod bolts,i seem to recall they have no markings
              No matter how hard you try...you cant fix stupid!!!

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              • camarofever
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 85

                #22
                Originally posted by car62 View Post
                They could be Pioneer rod bolts,i seem to recall they have no markings
                Can anyone verify that? also what should the rod side clearance be in relation to the crankshaft? I have KB pistons and there is a 30 stamped on the underside of each piston, does that mean they are .030 oversized?

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                • car62
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1579

                  #23
                  Originally posted by camarofever View Post
                  Can anyone verify that? also what should the rod side clearance be in relation to the crankshaft? I have KB pistons and there is a 30 stamped on the underside of each piston, does that mean they are .030 oversized?
                  does it say KB 218 on the side of the piston?
                  No matter how hard you try...you cant fix stupid!!!

                  If you build it right...it will turn left!!!

                  www.raceidaho.com

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                  • camarofever
                    Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 85

                    #24
                    Originally posted by car62 View Post
                    does it say KB 218 on the side of the piston?
                    Dont know. pistons are still inside the block.

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                    • camarofever
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 85

                      #25
                      picture

                      so heres a the best pic I could get of the head of the rod bolts. As you can see its domed and shinny. Does this look like a stock rod bolt?
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                      • return to dirt
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1008

                        #26
                        looks like the stock bolts. they look just like some i have here. for sure not arp. the kb pistons i have have kb and 217 cast on one side. the other side has sl and 97. on the bottom of the piston it has a 9.30 cast in them. these are 5.2 rod and i believe 0.040 over.

                        olin
                        Last edited by return to dirt; 11-13-2013, 11:42 PM.

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                        • camarofever
                          Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 85

                          #27
                          Olin these nuts are 14mm. Do your stock nuts also fit a 14mm socket?

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                          • return to dirt
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1008

                            #28
                            sorry about the delay in replying. yes the nuts on my stock rod bolts are 14mm.

                            olin

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                            • camarofever
                              Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 85

                              #29
                              So after determining I had stock rod bolts I pulled the rod caps today. I was going to order the arp rod bolts and new rod bearings, but I found all the rod bearings looking like this...... anyone know why these rod bearings are so jacked up? The crank journals still are in terrific shape. Also are the stock pinto main bolts TTY bolts? I want to check the main bearings and see if they too look like this. Had great oil pressure the whole season.
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                              • return to dirt
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 1008

                                #30
                                not sure on your bearings, maybe over heating. the bolts are not tty.

                                olin

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