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  • 8184
    Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 31

    #1

    spring and shock behind on 4 bar

    In general what will moving the shock from in front of the lr birdcage to behind on a coilover do for car handling?
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14303

    #2
    Originally posted by 8184 View Post
    In general what will moving the shock from in front of the lr birdcage to behind on a coilover do for car handling?
    The shock becomes much softer.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • 8184
      Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 31

      #3
      if it makes the shock much softer, how would that help on dry slick? Grt recommends doing this when the track slicks off and i just cant see how that would help. I've always been taught that you want high compression and low rebound on the left rear, but that's with the shock in front of the birdcage.

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      • Lizardracing
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 839

        #4
        I think they are trying to get at is the shock on the rear allows the LR to hike a little easier because the shock is much less effective there.

        I wouldn't call the shock softer per say, but the shaft travel is reduced to very little so I'd call it much less effective but
        MSR is on target.

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        • Dirt_Buster
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2016
          • 104

          #5
          Less Lr shock means more drive. Means it's a pain in the asssss In traffic too

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          • 8184
            Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 31

            #6
            Originally posted by Dirt_Buster View Post
            Less Lr shock means more drive. Means it's a pain in the asssss In traffic too
            so i take it by the pain in the asss comment that this setup wold not be ideal for stop and go tracks but would work good if you can carry some speed into the corners.

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            • Dirt_Buster
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 104

              #7
              Stop and go I like a 3-5 or 3-6 rf or a digressive shock with good bleed for he low speed . That's if diamonding corner and dry! Lr 7-3 150-170psi if up front and 8-2 200 in traffic for dry. 9-2 tacky and 250-300 psi

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              • racin6mod
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 2172

                #8
                I know it tightened our mod up a ton very hard to drive.

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                • powerslide
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2696

                  #9
                  Yep its junk I wouldn't even try it.

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14303

                    #10
                    Originally posted by powerslide View Post
                    Yep its junk I wouldn't even try it.
                    That's what I would tell my competitors.
                    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                    • oldtrackchamp4x
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 270

                      #11
                      On a really dry slick track it gives you way more drive from the center off. I found that you have to loosen car up a little and get used to backing out of the throttle very slowly and only part way so the car doesn't slam down and upset your corner entry. JMO

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                      • let-r-eat
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2319

                        #12
                        I'm with MBR on this one. Tell all your competitors it's a junk deal.
                        BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                        • oldtrackchamp4x
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 270

                          #13
                          Oh yea, I forgot to add that. LOL . JMO

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                          • powerslide
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2696

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                            That's what I would tell my competitors.
                            Lol its not anything magical just another tool in the toolbox

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14303

                              #15
                              Originally posted by powerslide View Post
                              Lol its not anything magical just another tool in the toolbox
                              Skip ARP would say otherwise since 1997.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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