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  • ILDirtFan1825
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 134

    #1

    377 or 421???

    Rebuilding a 400 block that was a 377, with stacked main bearings. If we decide to keep it a 377 (379 because had to take it to .040 over) it will get an Eagle forged crank with 400 mains so stacking isn't a worry. This will be in my sons mod and is his first year in an open mod, vs last 2 years in a crate. Brodix IMCA spec aluminum heads, 6 of the 8 rods were ok so 377 we only need to buy 2 rods. 421 we'll have to get all new rods and clearance the block. Mostly running 1/4 mile tracks and occasional a 3/8 track. Just looking for opinions on which way to go. Thanks!
  • 50j
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 1047

    #2
    What block?

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    • dirtrace09
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 746

      #3
      I am sure from what he is describing is a stock 400 block. Since this is his first year running an open mod from crates, I would save your money and rebuild the 377. Work on making sure the car is setup and he is comfortable with the difference in driving an open versus a crate. Once he feels comfortable and you guys are having finishes that you are happy with, build the bigger engine. Just remember to have fun and enjoy racing with your son. That is worth way more than any engine.

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      • powerslide
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2696

        #4
        Stock 400 blocks is pissing into the wind, especially at .040 over

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        • ILDirtFan1825
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 134

          #5
          It's a 511 stock 4 bolt main 400. And I'd rather he went for the 377 as well, especially being first year. And from what I've read the 421 will stress that block a lot more.

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          • over4T
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 1083

            #6
            Go with the 377.

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            • fastford
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4059

              #7
              stay with the 377 , half fill the block with moroso hard block and go with the one piece bearings to run 350 journal in 400 block.....JMO

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              • langdonracing48
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 183

                #8
                Honestly having run both, i hate my 377. ill take a 421 over it any day. i like the low end torque.

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                • 50j
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1047

                  #9
                  The 511 block isn't known for being the strongest so a longer stroke stressing it might not be good. With oem blocks though, you really won't know what it'll take until it can't. A shorter stroke should be easier on it..

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                  • Jim11h
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1501

                    #10
                    Stick with 377 or just make it a 408 (40 over). Can't beat a good 400 for torque and HP all the way around even motor.

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                    • daytonagary
                      Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 82

                      #11
                      love my 377. don't need the extra low end torque on a 8 inch tire mod and lots of slick tracks to race on by feature time.
                      engine builder told me the 2 bolt factory blocks better than 4 bolt with 4 bolts more prone to cracking. always have run 2 bolt, 12 to 1 compression and never hurt a thing.

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                      • langdonracing48
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 183

                        #12
                        I agree on the 2 bolt being stronger and less crack prone. Mine is a 2 bolt, 14:1 and I turn it as high as 8500rpms. Haven't hurt it yet.

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                        • badfast47
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 139

                          #13
                          Been thinking about building one of these 377's. Found a rotating assembly with 6" rods. Whats the difference between that and using a 5.7 rod ?
                          Last edited by badfast47; 12-22-2018, 01:02 PM.

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                          • let-r-eat
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2319

                            #14
                            6 inch rod will just take a lighter piston.
                            BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                            • daytonagary
                              Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 82

                              #15
                              and help rod angularity

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