front clip ?

[powerslide]

A lot of chassis builders ARE copiers... Hence "monkey see monkey do"? A lot of successful ones are innovaters. And good ol CJ is as bad as anyone when it comes to copying. He didn't even design his own frontend, he just revised it. He copied a lot of things off Gliddens drag car. Shooting in the dark doesn't make you an innovater. When your motto is "9 out of 10 things you try on a car should never work" then you are shooting in the dark. (sorry for the Rayburn rant) I understand motion ratios. When I say they don't matter it's because they can be compensated for 100% by changing spring rate. Now spring angle, that's another ballgame since you can make a spring load more progressively. And as far as that heavy, rear steer ford clip. It's very easily damaged because of being rear steer, and there have been several builders try for years to use them, but most of them have all gone away from them. They may drive great, but overall not a great package. There are still modified builders that are innovators. If you are want someone who will innovate and try new things I'd suggest calling Donnie Adams at Lightning. Great guy, great car, always trying new ideas. Not just moving upper shock mounts inward, then outward and calling it an update...

You call it monkey see monkey do. Others call it years of R&D.
If ump has no rules like everyone says it would seem like the chevelle with all the moved pick up points would be the way to go.
The only guys i see run UMP and USMTS on a regular basis are the nascar guys in the impressive's, from what little i have seen they are on the chevelle clip. The only ump race i have ever watched in person schrader flat killed everyone at kankakee it was a summer nationals race last year majority of which were pierce cars on the metric clip

[Bcollins82]

You call it monkey see monkey do. Others call it years of R&D.
If ump has no rules like everyone says it would seem like the chevelle with all the moved pick up points would be the way to go.
The only guys i see run UMP and USMTS on a regular basis are the nascar guys in the impressive's, from what little i have seen they are on the chevelle clip. The only ump race i have ever watched in person schrader flat killed everyone at kankakee it was a summer nationals race last year majority of which were pierce cars on the metric clip

I never said there werent builders that hadn't put lots of R&D in their chevelle stuff, and there are a lot of good cars built on chevelle stubs. Chevelle cars win a lot of races. Yes, it can be an advantage to move the pickups, but it is still illegal for now. But most of the time a properly designed metric car will turn better than a stock location chevelle clip. I've had drivers that have run Impressive, mastersbilt, and shaw chevelle clip cars in my metric stuff and usually the first words out of their mouth are "wow, this car turns good!" so yeah, I believe the metric stuff turns better but some disagree. But the metrics sure do suck to drag out of the junkyard, strip, sandblast, cut, grind, and plate so they can be used. With the china chevelle stuff you can skip a few of those steps making it easier for the builders. So there are some advantages in putting all your R&D in the chevelle stuff.

[powerslide]

I never said there werent builders that hadn't put lots of R&D in their chevelle stuff, and there are a lot of good cars built on chevelle stubs. Chevelle cars win a lot of races. Yes, it can be an advantage to move the pickups, but it is still illegal for now. But most of the time a properly designed metric car will turn better than a stock location chevelle clip. I've had drivers that have run Impressive, mastersbilt, and shaw chevelle clip cars in my metric stuff and usually the first words out of their mouth are "wow, this car turns good!" so yeah, I believe the metric stuff turns better but some disagree. But the metrics sure do suck to drag out of the junkyard, strip, sandblast, cut, grind, and plate so they can be used. With the china chevelle stuff you can skip a few of those steps making it easier for the builders. So there are some advantages in putting all your R&D in the chevelle stuff.

what is the name of your chassis?

[Bcollins82]

what is the name of your chassis?

I have no ties with any chassis manufacturer as I sold out last year, but I used to own Dominator Race Cars.

[JustAddDirt]

metric

I drove one of his cars at a test session.
It was the best feeling frontend I had driven in several years.
Now my new Lightning Chassis, is in a class by itself, and it is a Metric stub.