Cost of running open wheel modified?

[stock car driver]

Here's an opinion to piss somebody off. Buying things new is new is stupid. Very stupid. There are so many good usable parts out there from stupid guys that over spend and I take full advantage of em. Of course there are things you should buy new. But almost every thing can be bought used and as long as you pay attention to what your getting it will be to your advantage.
My lastest accusition is a Falcon transmission. I bought it for $100 cause it jumped outa gear and made someone mad. I sent it too Falcon where they charged me $300 to make like new. THe problem was a simple thing that the original owner wasn't doing properly. With shipping included, it cost me $500 for a like new transmission. I bought my Bert Bell broken for $100 because the guy had to have one like right now and he had more money then sense. I paid a local guy $50 to weld it back together. I bought my QM starter on Ebay for $100. I sent it to QM to have it checked out. It needed no parts. Doing this way takes a little more time and but I have less than 1/3 price for my drive line set up and it's all been deemed good to go by the very manufacturer that design these things.

There is always some dumbass that has no idea what they are doing overspending to get ahead. I love these guys cause they make it possible for me to race.

I sell lots of my parts used, there are some on ebay now no reserve enjoy... search 66jj. Ive got a huge list on here for sale also buy them up.

I would sell your falcon and get a bert or brinn.

[circle dirt]

Sorry !! I'll tell my 16 year old daughter that she is slacking on the website.No , I'm limited on my time off because of my job duties. Next race on our schedule will be the Ice Breaker in Brownstown Ind.Where do you run weekly? I didn't ask if you cared about our average car counts. Your the one who made the comment about no cars.

[stock car driver]

Sorry !! I'll tell my 16 year old daughter that she is slacking on the website.No , I'm limited on my time off because of my job duties. Next race on our schedule will be the Ice Breaker in Brownstown Ind.Where do you run weekly? I didn't ask if you cared about our average car counts. Your the one who made the comment about no cars.

I didnt make any comment about no cars. If you want to spar then try and follow along. I get bored easily.


I dont race weekly.

[circle dirt]

Common knowledge is where I got my numbers. Were you at any special events in my area? Love to hear you made the A main at the cornhusker classic, tiny lund, beatrice spring nationals or any other event around me with a 4 night old rr tire much less a 3500 dollar engine. It might give hope to others in the mod class.

Now if your excited about running what you got at a weekly track I could see that as the car count at most averages 12.

You say you made no comment about no cars but in this statement you say we average around 12 at the most and you get your info from common knowledge but yet your just a part time racer. LOL No wonder you get bored. Bottom line is, race 3-4 nights a week for 30+ years and then you can honestly say what it cost to race. I'm done with this, I feel like I,m arguing with a kid.

[stock car driver]

You say you made no comment about no cars but in this statement you say we average around 12 at the most and you get your info from common knowledge but yet your just a part time racer. LOL No wonder you get bored. Bottom line is, race 3-4 nights a week for 30+ years and then you can honestly say what it cost to race. I'm done with this, I feel like I,m arguing with a kid.

I would give up also if I was you as you clearly are unarmed in a battle of wits or common sense.

(look up the definition of AVERAGE and MOST) Then look at how they were used in my sentence you copy pasted. No where do I say a thing about any specific venue, much less yours, lol.

I raced only 30 nights in 2010 and 55 in 2009.

Im a part time rv'er, boat and fish guy, jeep rock crawler, race car builder, repair shop and lastly racer.

[CsR41]

Spending 30 grand on a used car is ridiculous. you can build a good NEW car for that price.

yeah the cars are not made to take big hits, but just because they get hit doesn't make them junk. I see cars all the time that have been hit hard, fixed or stubbed win.

Maybe your friend doesn't know what he is doing?

[stock car driver]

Spending 30 grand on a used car is ridiculous. you can build a good NEW car for that price.

yeah the cars are not made to take big hits, but just because they get hit doesn't make them junk. I see cars all the time that have been hit hard, fixed or stubbed win.

Maybe your friend doesn't know what he is doing?

I am not remotely sure what your even getting at here with this post.

30k was the price. Seemed fair to them.

Are you saying Jet the 4 or 5 time national champion or whatever he is doesnt know how to fix his own chassis?

[powerslide]

Believe he is referring to one of your original posts where you stated once they are wrecked the "money guys" go buy a new one because they will not be the same again. So yes it would seem that the jet would not know how to fix his cars if this is the case. I don’t care how many national championship you have doesn’t mean you can re-clip a car correctly. You seem to throw out pointless figures in trying to make your points doesnt fly with me.

I agree the majority of IMCA racers are not spending this type of money he is the hot bed of IMCA area I believe. Obviously has ties to "the jet". Personally i cannot believe someone paid 30k for a used IMCA car. You can go USMTS or late model racing for that.

It obvious you are a pessimistic person who knows it all, almost every post on this forum from you turns into one of these arguments. Also curious if you have ever funded a mod team because it sure seems like you have some sort of full bodied stock car

My rant is done now onto the original question. i believe someone said you can get a good used ride for 7-8k with another 7-8k budgeted for motor. I would budget atlest one new tire a night and 2barrels of fuel per month if running alky. you will go through alot of wheels as well.

If you are starting out and have nothing and are wanting to do this and have a truck already i would say for 25k you could have all car/trailer/tools need to make it through a season barring any major wrecks/blow ups. No you are not going to win all these big money shows but you should be able to compete weekly at 2-3tracks and learn to drive a keep up with the pack once this is accomplished come back and see us again and we can attempt to upgrade your program

I am not remotely sure what your even getting at here with this post.

30k was the price. Seemed fair to them.

Are you saying Jet the 4 or 5 time national champion or whatever he is doesnt know how to fix his own chassis?

[powerslide]

4 to 500 bucks a night provided you have no damage from the previous week. But that won't usually happen 2 weeks in a row in this class. We have invested about $40,000 in the last 15 races NO JOKE.And $15,000 in the 15 before that .What was the difference you ask ? The first 15 were ran with older equipment that ran 6th to 12th. The last 15 were ran with top shelf stuff that runs 3rd to 5th so far. If we can keep idiots from tearing it up for us this year long enough to dial it in I expect that will improve to 1st to 3rd.

So really you didnt spend 40k in 15 races. you have to average the cost of the car/motor over the amount of time you run it, unless you wrecked/blew up.
When i worked for a regional late model team it averaged out to cost about 800-900 per night to run a super late model this was in 2008.

I think these big spenders are what keeps the little guy from trying to make the jump to mods, yes you will be competing against some big money teams with more in haulers than most of us have in our homes but with hard work and smart spending you can beat them

[dirty white boy]

thought a stock clip clammier motor class was sposed to be cheap racing....for the money y'all talking you could run late model...

[powerslide]

No I ment 40k, with damages and what the car is worth now difference from what we have spent getting it ,And cost taking it to the track minus its winning returns,that is a pretty accurate figure for what we have spent (as per the question). Now with some luck we can spread that a little more. Will take a lot of luck to recover that expense.

Wow must of completely wasted 2-3cars or motors. Sorry about your luck

[hotrod4890]

I was just looking around for the cost of getting into a IMCA type mod with good equipment. You can get a 2 year old used Hughes car for $8,500 - $9,000 off of racing junk. You can get a new Mullins IMCA motor for $12,000. You can get a new motor of good quality and power with a lesser name for less money. I owned a UMP modified for over 10 years and never had a professionally built car or motor. We used a local machine shop to build our motors and we built our own cars. We ran a local track down in Louisiana and won 8 - 12 features a year for many years. Yes we got in bad wrecks at times like anywhere else in the country. We reclipped the car several times and never had a problem. If you chose a track to learn on smaller and stays pretty slick you will not need the $20,000 power plants that some on here will tell you have to have. Learn everything you can about fabrication and car set up. Spend your money wise. You don't have to buy new tires every time you go to the track. We ran the same tires 4 weeks in a row and won all 4 weeks by keeping the tires clean, buffed, and turned around. Work on your setup to keep from cooking the tires. Most of the time we could run a softer tire than most of the cars we ran against by having a well set up car, a good smooth driver, and yes less power. And starting out choose your races wisely. Everyone wants to win the big races but look at the pay back and ask yourself if you can win enough to cover your cost. Also remember that the bigger and and more hooked up a track is the harder it is on everything. Hope I have helped you and I know that this stockcar racing IDOT will have a lot of bashing to do about this but I don't want someone like that to make you not want to race. PM me if I can ever do anything to help you.

[stockcar5]

since i've never raced a mod i cant say what they cost to run but going by what good stuff is sold for and what new stuff costs i'd say 25k will get you a new roller and a good motor. i've seen 1 year old harris and skyrocket cars checked on a jig, repowder coated and all new tin for 10k-11k roller.

[stock car driver]

Believe he is referring to one of your original posts where you stated once they are wrecked the "money guys" go buy a new one because they will not be the same again. So yes it would seem that the jet would not know how to fix his cars if this is the case. I don’t care how many national championship you have doesn’t mean you can re-clip a car correctly. You seem to throw out pointless figures in trying to make your points doesnt fly with me.

I agree the majority of IMCA racers are not spending this type of money he is the hot bed of IMCA area I believe. Obviously has ties to "the jet". Personally i cannot believe someone paid 30k for a used IMCA car. You can go USMTS or late model racing for that.

It obvious you are a pessimistic person who knows it all, almost every post on this forum from you turns into one of these arguments. Also curious if you have ever funded a mod team because it sure seems like you have some sort of full bodied stock car

My rant is done now onto the original question. i believe someone said you can get a good used ride for 7-8k with another 7-8k budgeted for motor. I would budget atlest one new tire a night and 2barrels of fuel per month if running alky. you will go through alot of wheels as well.

If you are starting out and have nothing and are wanting to do this and have a truck already i would say for 25k you could have all car/trailer/tools need to make it through a season barring any major wrecks/blow ups. No you are not going to win all these big money shows but you should be able to compete weekly at 2-3tracks and learn to drive a keep up with the pack once this is accomplished come back and see us again and we can attempt to upgrade your program

No ties to Jet.

I just visit with him when I see him. It was his car that sold for 30k off the track to the guy that just put a leather kit in my old 08 dodge for me.

Your stoned if you think you can buy a USMTS or open LATE Model car that runs up front DIRECTLY off the track for 30k.

Sure there are lots of cars cheaper for sale we all sell cheap when we dont want what we have anymore.

[texas racer]

All that you want to spend and then some.