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  • MattMitchell
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 62

    #1

    Modified front end question

    I am having a new car built with a metric clip, my question is what front end lowers and spindles are used in a metric clip, im confused because if you go by the NAPA big book for gm metric cars everything almost fits everything to a point, but if you go by speedway motors performance bodies etc. there is 2-3 options on metric front end stuff any help would be greatful. Thanks
  • MattMitchell
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 62

    #2
    Also brakes, calipers and rotor suggestion oem, alum.?? 11 inch rotors, 10.5? Thanks again

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    • twisterf5
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 334

      #3
      Originally posted by MattMitchell View Post
      Also brakes, calipers and rotor suggestion oem, alum.?? 11 inch rotors, 10.5? Thanks again
      i would just order the pinto front package will give you every thing you need

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      • gangster49
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 192

        #4
        Depends on the chassis maker. Most use Nova lowers, some use Pinto spindles, some use Metric spindles.

        Bob Johnson

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        • MattMitchell
          Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 62

          #5
          Twister, I thought about that but my question to that is by ump rules the way I understood them I always thought you couldn't mix gm front end parts with ford? Im prob mistaken I was just curious and can you use pinto on nova lowers and metric lowers?

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          • racinjj
            Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 98

            #6
            You should use the Nova lowers and this is something the chassis builder should have already decided since it will determine screw jack, upper a-arm, and control arm mount locations.
            www.UltimateRaceCars.com

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            • dirttrackrocker
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 664

              #7
              Ask your chassis builder. Only he can answer that, the entire car is built around the front end. If he can't answer it, don't buy a chassis from him.

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              • kingmod5
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 357

                #8
                Could he use metric lowers?

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                • dirttrackrocker
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 664

                  #9
                  Yes if the spring pockets are in stock location and the upper A arm mounts and shock mounts were designed around metric lowers.

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                  • MattMitchell
                    Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 62

                    #10
                    ok so basicly metric clip, nova lowers, pinto spindles, all set up with the upper A arms, as well, do you use the metric center link? or the afco "better front geometry" center link, do the tie rods matter as much as long as you use the metric pitman arm and idler arm, and inner tie rods to get the bump steer and ackerman set correctly? heres the deal i bought a car back in 2010 that i was told it was a metric impala clip, so we relplaced with metric lowers and metric spindles etc. come to find out that when talking to the chassis builder who built this car and is building my new one told me he hasn't built a metric car since 07ish, and this car is older and come to find out this car is a "standard"? gm chevelle front clip that oddly enough metric parts fit up and didnt have any issue getting our camber back in and setting the front end after a wreck. am i missing some piece to the puzzle or over thinknig this way to much? because the car worked great and didnt have an issue other then me getting used to driving it as 2012 was only my second full season in the car. becasue when you look in speedway motors catalog especialy theres 40 million options on front end metric stuff and standard older style stuff and pinto stuff and like i said im completly confused and i think the front end not having the correct parts was part of my issue in getting the car set up and taking some of the radicalness (Sp) of driving it, to me everyone else looked smooth up on the bars and consistant, and watching the videos of the car it looked the same but i was feeling i was doing way more work in the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)pit then what it seemed if that makes sense. thanks for all the input guys i really appricate it and im glad theres a place to be able to talk to fellow racers and bounce ideas off of. thanks

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                    • dirty white boy
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1238

                      #11
                      if ya go with nova lowers,..itll add lil over a inch to wheel base,..an bout a inch track width too,..what width rear end you running?? something to think about...
                      white trash motorsports

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                      • MattMitchell
                        Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 62

                        #12
                        60 inch centered

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                        • dirttrackrocker
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 664

                          #13
                          If metric lowers fit, it is not a Chevelle clip....

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                          • dirttrackrocker
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 664

                            #14
                            look at the frame rails. If they are flat on the sides it is a Chevelle, if they have a channel in them it is a metric.

                            This is what a metric frame rail looks like. notice the channel in the side of the rail..



                            Here is a pic of a Chevelle frame.. no channel in rail..

                            Last edited by dirttrackrocker; 01-02-2013, 04:56 PM.

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                            • racer69
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 249

                              #15
                              Matt

                              Sounds like you were in the same position I was in a couple years ago. Thought my car was one thing and it turned out to be a mess. That mess got fast but I had to learn it all first plus learn to drive!

                              My old was supposed to be a Lightning. Even had the numbers and all. Come to find out it was a Lightning/grt(late model)/cyclone! Car was put together so well you couldn't tell!

                              Could you have had the same type thing going on? The original builder may not even know!

                              My new car has the chevelle clip with nova lowers and pinto spindles. As I race asphalt too those tiny rotor scare the ...outta me!

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