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  • Hagen14t
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 167

    #1

    RF camber

    I know this is very generic but do you feel that -3 camber on the RF is enough?
  • joeltjen
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 92

    #2
    no. especially if you dont have enough camber gain

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    • Hagen14t
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 167

      #3
      What do you feel I need to get it too? Having problems with the shock hitting the upper if I go anymore.

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      • powerslide
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2696

        #4
        move the shock mount or flip shock over is possible.

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        • Hagen14t
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 167

          #5
          Can you run gas bsb shocks upside down?

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          • powerslide
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 2696

            #6
            i would call BSB and ask, i run twin tube qa1 stuff.

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            • LFMotorsports
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 247

              #7
              If the front end geometry is correct, you won't get camber gain. It will stay the same during chassis roll. Best suggestion is to look at your tire wear or heat across the tire after a long run (full heat race or feature). The amount of camber you need depends on the track size, banking, etc.

              Just my 2 cents worth.

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              • powerslide
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 2696

                #8
                Originally posted by LFMotorsports View Post
                If the front end geometry is correct, you won't get camber gain. It will stay the same during chassis roll. Best suggestion is to look at your tire wear or heat across the tire after a long run (full heat race or feature). The amount of camber you need depends on the track size, banking, etc.

                Just my 2 cents worth.
                dont tell jimmy o or lanigan that...

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                • 4bangerhotrod
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 374

                  #9
                  if you dont have camber gain in the rf something is wrong and your losing alot of potential traction with that corner. you see cars start to turn in good then loose the rf once the car starts turning that is what lack of camber gain cause's. if the car stayed completly flat and didnt roll over you wouldnt need any gain, but it dont when the car roll's over it is angling the top of the tire out which is causing you to loose camber. by using camber gain when the car rolls over it keeps camber in the rf tire keeping the entire tread of the tire on the track if it is set right. how much camber if the outside of the tire is hot after a race that is because of a lack of camber gain.
                  Last edited by 4bangerhotrod; 06-05-2013, 06:22 PM.

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                  • MM90
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 422

                    #10
                    Every car is a little different. The best way I know if I have enough camber is looking at track photos with the car going through the corners. It's pretty easy to tell if the RF and the LF for that matter are tipped in or out. I had 4.5 degrees negative on my RF and could see the my RF was pretty close but the top of the tire was tipped out a little. So I'm at -5 degrees and see how that looks and feels.

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                    • Confused?
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 418

                      #11
                      The bottom of the tire is what you need to look at in the pictures. The top will deform in the opposite direction of the bottom. The outer tread needs to be in the track, but you do not want half the sidewall in the track.
                      Bill W. and Dr. Bob......who could have known.

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                      • 7uptruckracer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 1336

                        #12
                        RF Chassis dive will cause negative camber gain and RF Chassis Roll causes it the stand up the RF tire. Dirt Cars dive and Roll. how much yours does we don't know without using some software, its hard to roll a chassis in the shop sometimes. I always set mine to at least maintain static if I start with -5 and it rolls it will go to around -3.5 and with the arm I have (7.5) it goes back to static and depending on how much travel I use it will gain a degree or two depending on travel. You want to avoid a ton of transition in your contact patch cause that can give up traction as bad as the wrong static camber can. Temps tell half of a story it will only show you how it is most of the time it won't tell you how your tire contact patch does through its transition into the corner. -5 isn't a bad starting number on dirt

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                        • MM90
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 422

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Confused? View Post
                          The bottom of the tire is what you need to look at in the pictures. The top will deform in the opposite direction of the bottom. The outer tread needs to be in the track, but you do not want half the sidewall in the track.
                          Our hard IMCA tires don't deflect at the top, the whole sidewall rolls under. I just like to imagine a line down the center of the tire and make sure it's perpendicular to the track surface.

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                          • Confused?
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 418

                            #14
                            That is the same tires we run. A tire cannot deflect in one place without altering it somewhere else.
                            Bill W. and Dr. Bob......who could have known.

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                            • johnny v
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 197

                              #15
                              RF camber:
                              We had a $10000 to win Mod race locally and the rumor in the pits was some of the "big dog" Usmts guys are running a cheater RF pinto spindle that adds some neg camber like the LM custom built spindles do....
                              Any body know anything about this rumor ??
                              " Most of my drivers have been new to 4 link stuff and I believe most of their chassis issues are really my driver issues....... "

                              see ya
                              johnny v

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