IMCA Open motor guys. Question about this years performance.

[MM90]

Having 336 hp to the rear wheels is a advantage, lol..

I raced my crate mod last night, that crate motor is a pooch, my stock car with a 2 barrel dynoes the same and runs harder for sure.

Jeff nobody else is talking about HP, I can build a claim engine with the same HP and TQ as the crate but that won't do me any good because I won't get a spoiler or the 100# off the nose of the car.

[stockcar5]

Having 336 hp to the rear wheels is a advantage, lol..

I raced my crate mod last night, that crate motor is a pooch, my stock car with a 2 barrel dynoes the same and runs harder for sure.

I'm surprised the driveline in a mod costs 100hp. Guys up here are getting 440hp out of the crate on methanol. Did you even have to lift?!?!

[big.ed]

big.ed/LITE-INN, it would seem from where I read that YOU are the know-it-all jacka$$. Everyone else is asking questions, and discussing racing issues with racers who race, rather than trying to give advice on something they know NOTHING about. Why can't you see that real racers don't like you hijacking their posts when they want real info from another real racer? Get a clue! Your input is NOT appreciated nor wanted. If the topic is one about opinions from the stands, then by all means, voice away. If the questions are tech-related, please stay out of it.

yeah hi jacking with real questions that you mr racer lmao don't know the anwers and probably getting beat by some one that knows the answers

[MM90]

Who ran the spoiler? I am assuming it was a 3" as well.

[MM90]

I'm surprised the driveline in a mod costs 100hp. Guys up here are getting 440hp out of the crate on methanol. Did you even have to lift?!?!

Guys at Karl's said from the engine to chassis dyno the engine is down 15%. Crate engine dynoed "at crank" on methanol is around 450HP is what I was told.

[$LITE-INN$]

Not in UMP

You must not running UMP. UMP mods almost 680hp. You running IMCA or bmod. Follow program or get beat by it. Fact of life.

[$LITE-INN$]

I know all answers

I been friends with racer long time. UMP cars that run fast because they follow the program if not get beat by program up to you. do research lmao nonracers.

TAKE THE TEST -Test Your Knowledge...

1. Softening the right front spring helps the racecar to turn when on the gas because the softerspring causes extra chassis roll that increases the load and traction of the right front tire.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

2. A tall coil spring helps to keep the chassis from lifting off the spring during weight transferbecause a tall spring stores more energy than a short spring.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

3. The most important factor in the geometry of a front suspension is the location of thesuspension’s roll center.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

4. It makes no difference to handling as to how a non-coil over front spring is installed into a lowercontrol arm as long as the spring is centered in its seat.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

5. Loose handling off the corner is usually due to improper chassis setup when the throttle isapplied.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

6. Don’t ever increase stagger or right rear tire trail when racing on a slick track.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

7. A stiffer shock helps to load and unload a tire quicker than a softer shock.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

8. Place ballast wherever convenient as long as the desired weight percentages are attained.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

9. The location of a shock or spring is not nearly as important as its rate.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

10. All suspension components should be mounted using stiff or solid type bushings.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

11. The RF tire gains negative camber when the chassis rolls.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

12. Most dirt track front suspensions need from 3 to 4 degrees negative camber in the right front tire and 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 degrees positive camber in the left front tire.a.) True b.) False c.) Not Sure

[LITE-INN]

but can you answer the copy and paste lmao

[Modlitefan0]

SCD, you make a good point with detuning them. That is exactly what we do on a weekly basis and it changes nothing. Elliot was running his 360 with the timing backed off and he finished what like 8th or something like that. Guys are trying anything from running really tall gears, running 2 barrels, restrictors, unhooking secondaries and none of this allows them to be able to drive a car into the corner 2-3 car lengths deeper like the crates are. On a side note, there was a sport mod guy down at Boone tonight trying a modified because he is making the switch in the next week or two and he thought the crate performed better at Boone when it was heavy than it did once it slicked off. Boone actually farmed this week so there was still a little something to get ahold of in the feature, but of course the woodchips they put in it a couple of weeks ago have made it hard for anyone to hook up like normal. I am sure they will put some more down before SN comes around. Plywood racing anyone?

[LITE-INN]

what a shame down in UMP land last for a weekly show we had 40 cars and not a crate in sight but I believe a spec motor with no weight break or spoiler difference

[1Blacksheep]

I would like to think an affordable crate would run at the front in UMP land . But I don't ever see it happening as there will always be a Cat show up that knows what he is doing with the Chassis, loud pedal,and deep pockets that will hand a Crate an azz whoopin in any track condition with a Big Horse . Good Luck and post results when it happens IF it happens. Not saying its impossible but not likely until a Crate will turn 10 Gs on the Tach in the tack . JMO

[LITE-INN]

A spec motor won last i do believe at least thats what he had last year and we had 40 mods for a weekly show and knowledge with chassis bingo look at test i gave

[Modlitefan0]

Noteboom said one of the reasons he didnt go to the Clash was because of the crate.

[shockmod3x]

A spec motor won last i do believe at least thats what he had last year and we had 40 mods for a weekly show and knowledge with chassis bingo look at test i gave

maybe you did have 40 cars for one week bla bla..but dont try fill us with all you BS about how super things are in UMP country because they are now. while IMCA may have crate issues...UMP is killling the class in a differnt with ZERO engine rules, and the order of the day to run up front is a at least a 20k Mullins, which most of your top cars have if not they have the something better...without one of those 15, 18 degree beast on a tacky track you are just wasting your time.

[Mod77L]

Found this on facebook. Same weight, more HP & TQ for $1000 more than the crate, but claimable and no blade.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1071596_10153048674320471_1012078771_o.jpg

Can't find them on karlperformance.com though.