Is there really any need for more than 650 hp in a modified?

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  • SS Motorsports
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 431

    #1

    Is there really any need for more than 650 hp in a modified?

    Steel block 18* heads 362 cid making around 650hp on a fairly conservative dyno. Is there really any need for anything bigger or more powerful?
  • HEAVY DUTY
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 796

    #2
    I don't think so. If you are freed up even on the bigger more hooked up tracks, you are ok. On slicker tracks, you will still have to detune it.

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    • 29 avenger
      Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 87

      #3
      If your on ump tires you can use it

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      • JustAddDirt
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1893

        #4
        With a UMP tire, and that cubic inch (362) you will have to twist the bejesus out of it.
        It more than likely has no torque, and what gets a car off the corners.....torque.
        Horsepower numbers do not mean crap, torque is what moves a car.
        One of my motors years ago was under 400 CI and it had 625 torque, and 650ish HP on alky.
        Won more money and features with that combo than any.
        From Volusia, Eldora, KY Lake, to 1/4 mile Lawrenceburg, and Ponderosa Speedway.
        I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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        • SS Motorsports
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 431

          #5
          This engine is in an asphalt modified now and just purchased a Larry Shaw car, have not seen the dyno sheets to know what the torque #'s are. I do know it will get off the corner really hard on pavement, and they turn it 8500 rpm's now.

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          • let-r-eat
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 2319

            #6
            Well,(Torque X RPM) / 5252 = HPSo if you have 500 ft pounds at 5000 rpms you have 2500000/5252 = 476 hp.Raise that to 500ft pounds at 5500 rpms and you have 523.5hp.The point I'm making is this:Where you make power matters such as this torque peak deal I illustrated. >Cubic Inches need more Air flow capacity to make peak torque at >higher rpm than the equivalent
            BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14324

              #7
              Originally posted by SS Motorsports View Post
              Steel block 18* heads 362 cid making around 650hp on a fairly conservative dyno. Is there really any need for anything bigger or more powerful?
              You can win some late model races with that.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • want2bafast1
                Junior Member
                • May 2013
                • 11

                #8
                You can be very competitive with 650 horse engine if it has good torque. If it doesn't have a lot of torque it probably won't be enough if track is heavy. Good luck

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