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  • Anonymous24
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 253

    #16
    No. Take the corner up top you get x amount of roll. Enter the corner low and you probably will have increased chassis roll compared to the top. Especially if the track is progressively banked. Just cause you on the chip don't mean a thingto speed. You can be on the chip on exit because you broke traction. I pled my case. If I am incorrect please prove me so with actual data orprovide a credible source proving me wrong.
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    • stock car driver
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 3233

      #17
      lol.. on the chassis dyno on the chip mph stays the same until you let off the gas. same speed at entry every lap. chip on entry not exit, lol.

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      • stock car driver
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 3233

        #18
        Originally posted by Anonymous24 View Post
        You never enter the corners at the same rate of speed hence you do not achieve the same amount of chassis roll at every corner.
        NEVER lol...

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        • powerslide
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2696

          #19
          Originally posted by Confused? View Post
          Anonymous24, message me with the chassis company that you own/work for. Of all the chassis I've been around, none try to achieve zero camber gain.
          Did that PM ever come?

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          • MM90
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 422

            #20
            I know the Bandit chassis that Mark Bush(sp) sets up that utilized the Ford stub tried for little if any camber change. Don't know how well it worked out for them or not.

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            • dirtrace09
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 746

              #21
              If you use basic geometry principles and draw sweep arcs, you will see that your upper and lower do not move at the exact same arc angle. This is due to many factors, including but not limited to, upper a arm angle and lower arm angle. Also length of each will come into play. Amount of movement will be a factor in camber gain. And theoretically you can control the camber gain, but real world racing will come into play. You can be at the same speed every lap if you are on a chip until you get into traffic and get held up for a split second. Will that be enough to drastically change your camber gain, probably not. Will the tracks progressive banking effect the movement, yes. However, you only have a limited movement the upper and lower a arms can make. You can simulate that and measure the gain and know the limit of that gain depending on your car.

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              • Confused?
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 418

                #22
                Powerslide, yes, it did. I won't post what he told me. If he wants to do that, that's up to him. However, he has very, very sound reasons behind what he posts.
                Bill W. and Dr. Bob......who could have known.

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                • Anonymous24
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 253

                  #23
                  Thank you Confused? I appreciate you keeping my information private. I have reasons why I don't share my personal information on here. Too much drama. Thanks for being an awesome guy! I will not forget that!!
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