High Left Side Percentage On A Wisota Mod 4

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  • Wild Blue 32
    Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 90

    #16
    Raceman, How would you fix it? Maybe redo the motor mounts moving the engine right an inch or two? I'm gonna try to make it work the way it is first. Thank you.

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    • Renegade Cust Susp
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 349

      #17
      You can get away with high LS% as long as #1 LF corner is heaviest and #2 LF is way heavier than RF. I don't know what a MOD 4 is because they don't run them in this area. But that being said as a big guy I know plenty about high ls%
      Broc Burton
      go.fast.crs@gmail.com

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      • Krooser
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 3117

        #18
        [4] SUSPENSION - FRONT AND REAR
        A. Frames and Suspension
        1. No fiberglass leaf springs.
        2. Only one (1) shock absorber per wheel. No remote or external canister type shocks
        allowed. Front half of shocks can be covered.
        3. Rear shocks must be attached to rear end and frame [no linkages].
        4. No aluminum body shocks.
        5. Rear weight jacks allowed.
        6. No (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)pit-adjustable rear weight jack allowed. No (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)pit-adjustable shocks
        7. Rear trailing arms, panhard bar, lift bar or pull bar may have steel heim joints. Must be
        mounted in stock configuration. Trailing arms can be no shorter than 14 inches and no
        longer than 20 inches. Must be within one INCH in length of each other; arms may
        be adjustable. Sliders are allowed for leaf spring mounting.
        8. No coil-over shocks; no coil-over unit or torque-absorbing device on third link or lift
        bar other than rubber bushings. Coil springs must have minimum outside
        diameter of 4-1/2 inches.
        9. Mounting brackets and control arms may be interchanged between different model
        differentials. Rear-end mounting brackets may be relocated.
        10. No floating suspension components or bird cages.
        11. Steel adjustable spring shims are allowed on top of front springs.
        12. Strut rods – Soft tubing can be welded into the shaft part of the strut rod but must
        have stock rubber bushings at frame end and must retain original control arm end.
        Cutting off the front bolt area is not allowed. Must remain OEM length.
        13. Front shock absorbers must be mounted in the O.E.M. bottom mounts and in the
        O.E.M. location for the cross member being used.
        14. All front suspension components must be O.E.M. and unaltered for the front cross
        member being used. Spindles, steering arms, "A" arms, and steering components may
        NOT be lightened, bent, shortened or altered in any way.
        15. Upper "A" arms may be mounted in any location. Lower "A" arms must be mounted
        in O.E.M. mounts and in the O.E.M. location for cross member. Bottom A-frame
        bushing must have bolt hole in center of bushing, not an offset bolt hole.
        16. Front sway bars allowed. Must be stock O.E.M. to cross member with stock
        mounting; can be mounted front or rear of cross member.
        17. Intermarriage of spindles, steering arms, strut rods, hubs, "A" arms and steering
        components is permitted only within O.E.M; must be GM to GM, Ford to Ford.
        B. Steering
        1. In-(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)pit steering may be modified to suit driver's taste, but must be kept on the
        left side of the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)pit. No center steering.
        2. Solid steering joint recommended.
        3. No boxing-in of steering column.
        4. A quick-release steering wheel is required.
        5. A steering quickener is recommended but must pass safety inspection.
        6. Steering wheel must be 13" minimum diameter.
        C. Brakes
        1. All brakes must be stock (any stock production) components after master cylinder;
        no proportioning valve or no shut-off valve. Residual pressure valve is allowed. No
        aluminum components after master cylinder except residual pressure valve
        2. Front brakes must match crossmember being used. Brake and hub assemblies must
        be the same type on left and right front wheels.
        3. Disc brakes allowed on rear.
        4. Brakes must be capable of locking three (3) wheels on dry dirt. Must have brakes on
        three (3) wheels. All three calipers must work when braking.
        5. One (1) master cylinder only.
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        6. Master cylinder may be an aftermarket model.
        7. No brake floaters.
        D. Shocks
        1. Shocks must be steel non-adjustable. No remote or external canister type shocks
        allowed. Shocks must be one-piece steel body. No multi-piece bodies or bulb tops
        allowed. May have removable bushing on shaft end of body. Bearing holder/eyelet
        must be fixed to body. No Schrader or bladder style valves allowed. May have
        aluminum heim joint on shaft end.
        [5] TIRES AND WHEELS
        A. Tires
        1. Dirt: Hoosier Dirt Stocker or Super Dirt Stocker A-60x13; B-60x13;
        P-225/60D-13; P-195/65D-13; P-185/65D-13.
        2. Siping and grooving tires is allowed.
        B. Wheels
        1. Wheels must be steel and a maximum of seven (7) inches wide.

        [7] ENGINES
        A. Stock configuration Ford 2000, 2300; GM 140, 151; or Chrysler 2.2 engines.
        B. Bore, stroke and rod length shall be:
        Bore Stroke Rod
        GM 151 4.000" 3.000" 6.000"
        GM 140 3.500" 3.625" 5.700"
        Ford 2000 3.570" 3.030" 5.000"
        Ford 2300 3.781" 3.126" 5.200"
        Chrysler 2.2 3.440" 3.620" 5.945"
        Cylinders may be bored to a maximum of .060 over stock.
        C. Exhaust systems must be mounted in such a way as to direct gasses down and/or
        back from the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)pit and away from area of possible fuel spillage.
        D. Flat-top, valve relief or dished pistons only. Pistons must be three-ring. Floating wristpins
        are allowed. Coated bearings and pistons are allowed. Piston, wrist pin and rings must
        weigh a minimum of 510 grams. Wrist pin must be stock outside diameter (OD) for the
        engine being used.
        Wrist pin height - center of wrist pin to top of piston:
        Min. Max.
        GM 151 1.560 1.528
        GM 140 1.480 1.480
        Ford 2000 1.588 1.588
        Ford 2300 1.578 1.598
        Chrysler 1.572 1.573
        E. Crankshaft and connecting rods must be O.E.M. to block with no lightening, grinding or
        polishing of any type. No marine parts. Absolutely no strokers. Balancing is allowed.
        O.E.M. stock steel rods only.
        F. Camshaft may be performance type, but absolutely no roller cams, roller followers,
        roller rockers or roller lifters. Valve lift shall be no more than .525 inches at the valve.
        No reverse rotation engines allowed.
        G. No grinding, porting or polishing of any kind is allowed on heads and intake manifolds,
        including no matching of gaskets. Head may be milled on block mounting surface only.
        Head may be machined for solid cam. No acid porting allowed. Cam towers on head may
        be reinforced with welded on straps.
        H. Valve diameter must be stock for engine. Valve seat cut: the lowest angle cannot
        extend more than .250 from the beginning of the 45° angle (valve seat). Stainless steel
        and undercut valve stem valves are allowed. Valve stems and valve guides must be OEM
        stock size. No beehive/conical valve springs allowed. Intake and exhaust measurements
        must be:
        Intake Exhaust
        GM 151 1.720 1.500
        GM 140 1.625 1.375
        Ford 2000 1.653 1.418
        Ford 2300 1.739 1.500
        Chrysler 2.2 1.600 1.390
        I. No dry-sump oiling. No external pump oiling. Homemade pans or aftermarket pans
        allowed. Must be removable for teching crank and rods. Factory oil filter mounted oil
        cooler allowed.
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        J. No dual camshaft heads.
        K. No reverse cooling. Water pump and pulley must be O.E.M. to block. No aluminum
        water pumps on Fords.
        L. No D-port heads, D-port intake manifolds, turbo heads or turbo intake manifolds.
        M. Engine offset must remain inside frame rails.
        N. Engine setback shall be a minimum 60" from centerline of axle housing to the back of
        the engine block.
        O. Tachs and gauges
        1. No digital tach or gauges. No rev-limiters allowed.
        2. Aftermarket timing belt tensioner allowed.
        3. Crankshaft power pulley is allowed.
        4. Aftermarket timing belt and adjustable timing belt pulleys or sprockets are allowed.
        Must remain OEM diameter.
        P. Radiator - One (1) radiator only; must be mounted in front of engine and must not
        protrude from the car.
        Q. No titanium engine parts allowed.
        R. Surge tank hose can enter into water pump. Surge tank cannot hold more than one half
        gallon of coolant and must be located in engine compartment.
        S. One 12 volt battery allowed only.
        [8] ASPIRATION - FUEL
        A. A fuel cell is required.
        B. Fuel cells other than metal must be enclosed in a minimum 20-gauge steel container.
        C. A fuel cell hoop of minimum 1-1/4" X 14-gauge in the back and extending down below
        the fuel cell is required.
        D. Single 5200-series pony car carb; E.G.R. plate O.E.M. to engine, if
        F. Carburetor throttle plate & bore must be stock: primary throttle bore 32.0 mm maximum
        and secondary throttle bore 36.00 mm maximum. Primary venturi diameter 26.00 mm,
        secondary bore 27.0 mm maximum.
        G. No blowers or turbo-chargers.
        H. Stock O.E.M. to engine 2-barrel intake manifold only.
        I. Distributor must be stock. Ford 2000 may use Ford 2300 ignition system. Ignition box
        must match distributor and must be O.E.M. Aftermarket distributor gear and intermediate
        shaft is allowed. Ford TFI ignition system allowed on Ford engines only. This system has
        the module mounted to the distributor. OEM aftermarket coil is allowed.
        J. Fuel: Gasoline only, up to E-98 Ethanol is allowed. May make changes to the carb to
        enable the use of ethanol. No alcohol, nitrous oxide or nitro. No nitrous devices allowed.
        No methane.
        K. One (1) fuel line only connected to carb. No vacuum lines on carb or on intake manifolds.
        L. Electric fuel pumps allowed, but they must be wired into the oil pressure system to
        prevent them from pumping without oil pressure.
        [9] ALUMINUM
        A. No aluminum body shocks, drive shafts, flywheels or rear-end parts.
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        72 © 2014 WISSOTA Promoters 2014 WISSOTA Rule Book Association
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        • RACEMAN
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 323

          #19
          Wild Blue: RE: Engine offset - Rule M. Engine offset must remain inside frame rails.

          If it's dirt, definitely, move it to the right. Talk to all the mod guys. Pretty standard practice.

          Also, consider moving the fuel tank high and to the right. This also seems to be pretty common practice.

          Bunch of guys here looking out for you.

          Good luck.

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