RF tie down shock?

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  • charcoal01
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 545

    #16
    Your guys theory of the rf holding the weight and not letting it transfer to the rear worked great in the days of cars that squatted when coming of the corners but the 4 links we run today need to lift on the lr in order to create the drive off that tire. A tie down shock takes a whole package to run and I promise you jeff and I know what we're talking about with the chain. The answer to how to get more drive off isn't always a bigger rf spring. I softened up almost 100 pounds on my front springs and a few more small changes and I have way more drive on dead slick stuff than I did when I ran a 600 or 650 in the rf. Op, pm me if you'd like, I can probably give you some other ideas to put the drive back in the car you lost with tie down.

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    • missile07
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 680

      #17
      The inch on the chain wasn't an all at once adjustment. In increments...still at 45 degrees on the top bar at full drop. On the imca/usmts stuff I do feel that the lr needs lift but Im not convinced yet on UMP tires.

      Again driver is not driving in as deep as others but with the 45/45 he kills them coming off the turn.

      We just want to try some different things little by little to improve.

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      • missile07
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 680

        #18
        charcoal your inbox is full...

        244=cant get away with adjustable shock... they check

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        • drtrkr244
          Banned
          • Dec 2007
          • 1024

          #19
          Ok, so if the RF is so heavily loaded, why don't we have tremendous forward bite! Its always been agreed upon that racecars work off of diagonal corner weights, but it doesn't work that way with a tied down RF shock!

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          • missile07
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 680

            #20
            Who was that directed towards?

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            • drtrkr244
              Banned
              • Dec 2007
              • 1024

              #21
              Anyone who posted earlier.......my "reply with quote" is not workin

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              • charcoal01
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 545

                #22
                Inbox cleared. Sorry.

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                • JustAddDirt
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1893

                  #23
                  missle07

                  you say you are on a 600 RF spring
                  what clip...chevelle?
                  I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                  • missile07
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 680

                    #24
                    yes chevelle clip.

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                    • RRR_Products
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 105

                      #25
                      Please look at Penske internal adjustable shock. They will never know because it is "internal". Save money by having one shock and not 20.

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                      • Duckhnter83
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 152

                        #26
                        What would you recommend for a imca northern sport mod for a rf shock on dry slick

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                        • Matt49
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 3123

                          #27
                          Anti-squat as a substitute for down force or load on a rear tire only works if you can transfer weight from front to rear. Stiff rebound front shocks are not conducive to front to rear weight transfer which is why so many people complain about lack of forward bite when running them.
                          The REAL advantage we get from being all barred up on the LR is that the vertical center of gravity is raised which promotes more weight transfer. More weight transfer = more grip = more speed. It's all about getting as much weight to transfer to the rear wheels but still being able to steer the car. That's the tricky part. If this stuff was easy, everybody would do it.

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                          • JustAddDirt
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1893

                            #28
                            when I drove a chevelle clipped car, I could not get any traction in the car unless I had a 700lb RF spring in the car.
                            Had a softer compression setting, and a good bit of rebound in RF.
                            shock and spring have to work together.
                            and you may think that the 100lb spring difference sounds huge, but when you factor in the 35% motion ratio, that is a 35 pound difference at the ball joint. Not a lot, but a noticeable difference.
                            I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                            • let-r-eat
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2319

                              #29
                              I would also like to add that if the car wasn't designed to run the softer right front then it's very likely that a soft right front isn't going to be very successful.
                              BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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