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  • wallbangerII
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 55

    #1

    Chassis Help Please

    Old under rail clamped Pierce Car.
    Run on a 1/4 mile medium to high bank track, gets black and slick.
    Car has a medium push on entry, heavy rear brake to turn.
    Good balance through turn, a little loose off turn, right rear tire substantially hotter than the left.
    Springs LF 650 RF 600 LR225 RR200
    Shocks LF slick track Right tie down LR9-2 RR 93
    Weight with 20 gal fuel-no driver=2300 lbs
    LS 51.6% Rear 57.4% 30lb L.R. Bite
    short panhand bar
    4 bar left side
    Z link RT with springs on top
  • Confused?
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 418

    #2
    First thing I would do is raise the LR bite to about 75-80 and try it.
    Bill W. and Dr. Bob......who could have known.

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    • Dirtrunner35
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 632

      #3
      Fix your small push on entry FIRST, Why would you put a tie down on the RF when it's black slick?
      Last edited by Dirtrunner35; 07-14-2014, 04:51 PM.

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      • dirtracr33
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 278

        #4
        if its tight on entry and loose off you could swap your front springs, increase lr bite and with the rr getting overly hot take out some panhard bar rake (helped on ours) just some thoughts good luck
        powerslave

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        • drtrkr244
          Banned
          • Dec 2007
          • 1024

          #5
          I consulted for a team that had a '06 Pierce 4/4 car. We ran a pair of 600's in the front. That will loosen your entry up, and slightly tighten your exit. Fifty lb spring changes are small changes on stock front ends.

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          • anissa5
            Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 79

            #6
            Rearend is to far to the left 51.6 is low should be 52.6 to 53 %%

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            • anissa5
              Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 79

              #7
              Do you have weight on the right side of the car

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              • bob75
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 2814

                #8
                check you rear shock angles 15 degrees both side , if you get that your left side % should be 52.2 or52.3 sounds like the rear end is to far to the left, if you have a quick change your short bar should be 14 3/4 to 15 in (real close).i wouldnt be afraid of running more left rear.

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                • xxxmod
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 111

                  #9
                  4 bar the right side..leave the spring on top off the housing(better roll steer on entry)
                  lose the short panhard,use a 18"to19" jbar 5.5" split ( more predictable,more sidebite,easier to drive)
                  75lbs lr bite ( clamp cars are dumping there wedge the second you lift making them tight in anyway)

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                  • wallbangerII
                    Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 55

                    #10
                    NO WEIGHT ON RT SIDEOF CAR. driver only weighs 140lb. will check rear side to side tonight.

                    thanks for your help. any body else ?

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                    • let-r-eat
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2319

                      #11
                      How much toe? Caster split? Does it just push off the track if you use no brake?
                      BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                      • jsf74
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 544

                        #12
                        Had same exact issue here and going from 40lb lr bite to 65 made my car awewome!

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                        • drtrkr244
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 1024

                          #13
                          We ran 60 in the example above. Also,ran LU bar in top hole for more drive off.

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