can you all up date this wording as to why and what car ran it

[zeroracing]

Question, how is something legal in the pits, not legal once you hit the gas? The cars are only legal in the pits, my deck height and wheelbase are way off on the gas... How can something be legal in the pits but not on the track?

[darcy]

pull bar

Southwest speed makes them. You buy them with 1 2 3 springs in them.

[QQQQ]

darcy, please post a picture, just looked at SWS catalog and I didnt see anything like what Sanders had on his car at PRI.

[Anonymous24]

darcy, please post a picture, just looked at SWS catalog and I didnt see anything like what Sanders had on his car at PRI.

I agree with QQQQ

[pure 17]

back to the cantilever set up… what did this type of setup accomplish and how exactly did it work?

[72Dubya]

Looks like people were talking of something similar back in '03...

http://www.thedirtforum.com/ubb/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20051127-9-002881.html

[ermann388]

the cantilever setup works by as the pullbar is pulled back by the rearend it pushes or pulls (depending on how its setup) against the solid bar in the front which pushes or pulls against the front end so that the rf either gets more force put on it or takes weight off of it and transfers it to the rear..its pretty simple...and the only reason it is outlawed now is because it was new and the usmts and other sanctioning bodies are trying to keep the modifieds from getting too far out of hand and i can completely agree with that

[05modWrench]

Watch out for the catapult system off our LF lower, in conjunction with the RR brake floater

[Racing Don Don]

It's funny all the talk about this , brake floaters etc ! Cj Rayburn and Ray Calihan had this stuff 30 years ago. !! Sanders is in your mind !!!Dont get beat before you get there

[m_stagev]

the most winning late model at Hagerstown in the early 80s was a rayburn cantilever car driven by denny bonebrake

[SuperEight]

Seems to me they are just stifling innovation for no good reason. That rule sounds so ambiguous you could associate it to whatever you want to. Its not like this was something that took outrageous ca$h to buy, you could build your own and if your half smart make it work.

[Anonymous24]

Mark Bush told me that there is NO black magic or voodoo when it comes to the cantilever pull bar setup. Personally, I believe there is something to it that they are not telling us

[Lizardracing]

Mark Bush told me that there is NO black magic or voodoo when it comes to the cantilever pull bar setup. Personally, I believe there is something to it that they are not telling us

That's right, it's Trigonometry and a little geometry.....Math isn't voodoo.

[Anonymous24]

That's right, it's Trigonometry and a little geometry.....Math isn't voodoo.

You forgot physics

[Kwhardage]

Sanders deal worked something like this.

I would think the center hole of the cantelever bracket would mount to the "pullbar bracket" on the chassis. Otherwise, this is not cantilevered at all. It's a pullbar bracket with a brace running forward (had a shaw similar to this. needed every brace and then some on a tacky track).

As far as unsprung weigt, if the solid bar were run from top of rearend to cantelever bracket, and springs mounted forward from cantilever bracket, you would have less unsprung weight.

It absolutely makes a difference where that bar pulls from side to side and front to back. If there wasn't something to it, they would have let it be. But... unless you have a ton of time to devote to R&D, you'll be out to lunch on this more than the guy with a "book" setup. The big guys run some off the wall stuff, that we may not see for a few years. Even then, its like pulling teeth to get any info on what it does. They'll also run some stuff to catch your eye in one spot to keep you from looking somewhere else.