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  • superstock50
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 106

    #1

    Switching to E85

    I know that E85 can be really inconsistent with it's blend, so my question is can you add methanol to say E60 to bring it up to 85? Or is there any additive I could use, this way I don't spend all of my time changing my tune or driving all over Gods creation testing pump E85 to keep it consistent?
  • 50j
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 1047

    #2
    You wouldn't want to do that, it isn't the same thing.
    Last edited by 50j; 12-04-2016, 03:11 PM.

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    • Racer111
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 796

      #3
      Have to use Ethonal

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      • Lizardracing
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 839

        #4
        Pump gas E85 has quite the range according to the NTSA nweb site so buying from a reputable dealer is key but may not have the same savings in it.

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        • superstock50
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 106

          #5
          Thanks Lizard, I am trying to save money. If I could get reliable pump E85 at roughly 2$ a gallon vs 8$ a gallon fuel, (to win $200-$300) I could save roughly $60 a night. Figure that up over the course of the season! That is a lot of tires, or maybe a set of custom shocks. Think about it!

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          • 95shaw
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 205

            #6
            I think having consistant fuel so tune is easier to manage is worth something. What does a tank of bad fuel cost in time wasted at track, most times when it should have been your night?
            As a friend of mine likes to say Nuthins free.

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            • superstock50
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 106

              #7
              I agree 95Shaw, just trying to save a few bucks. It may still be a little cheaper for me to buy "racing" E85 from a supplier like VP or someone like that.

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              • stock car driver
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 3233

                #8
                Originally posted by superstock50 View Post
                Thanks Lizard, I am trying to save money. If I could get reliable pump E85 at roughly 2$ a gallon vs 8$ a gallon fuel, (to win $200-$300) I could save roughly $60 a night. Figure that up over the course of the season! That is a lot of tires, or maybe a set of custom shocks. Think about it!
                I don't see how your going to save that much...

                I ran 4 barrel open motor and 4 barrel crate on race race gas tuned properly and only used 3-4 gallons a night total. When I ran the same crate on alky I burned 17-20 gallons in a night.

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                • fastford
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4059

                  #9
                  so you burned 5 times more alky than gas? my experience is about 2:1 on methanol , e85 is less than that. Down here racing fuel is 8 bucks a gallon , e85 is $1.79 right now . even after buying some strait ethanol to calibrate with , it is way cheaper than racing gas.

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                  • Wild Blue 32
                    Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 90

                    #10
                    I've been running pump E-85 for 2 years now. What I do is buy the fuel in june or july when the pumps would be closest to E-85. Then I test it and add unleaded gas if it's too high ethanol content or ethanol if it's too low. I usually buy a barrel at a time. When it gets close to fall I fill my barrel so I have enough to get through fall and spring. It's been working good for me. The key is making sure the fuel stays consistent so your carb tune will be right. It's a little extra work but the last time I filled my barrel it was $1.15 a gallon so compared to $8 race gas it's a big savings.

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                    • stock car driver
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 3233

                      #11
                      Originally posted by fastford View Post
                      so you burned 5 times more alky than gas? my experience is about 2:1 on methanol , e85 is less than that. Down here racing fuel is 8 bucks a gallon , e85 is $1.79 right now . even after buying some strait ethanol to calibrate with , it is way cheaper than racing gas.
                      you have already argued about this with me in the past, don't you get sick of beating a dead horse? I also explained to you that I was a alky dealer and my best bud ran alky still and went thru at least what I already posted in every single night of racing on the same tracks as me all season.

                      Ill tell you the same thing as last time.. yes and I made the same hp on gas as alky, 5 less peak tq..
                      Last edited by stock car driver; 12-05-2016, 07:03 PM.

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                      • fastford
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4059

                        #12
                        once again, how are you burning 5 times more alky than gas? thats my question. and ill keep beating that dead horse as long as the horse is incorrect. you come on here and degrade peoples opinion all the time, well 90% of the time any way. but when some one questions you , you get all defensive, also sounds like your buddy needs to find a new alky tuner if hes burning 5 to 1 alky over gas, carry on..........

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                        • JustAddDirt
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1893

                          #13
                          my personal opinion

                          Originally posted by fastford View Post
                          once again, how are you burning 5 times more alky than gas? thats my question. and ill keep beating that dead horse as long as the horse is incorrect. you come on here and degrade peoples opinion all the time, well 90% of the time any way. but when some one questions you , you get all defensive, also sounds like your buddy needs to find a new alky tuner if hes burning 5 to 1 alky over gas, carry on..........
                          I agree , if they are burning 5:1 they need a new tuner, or carb guy.

                          JMO
                          I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                          • stock car driver
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3233

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fastford View Post
                            once again, how are you burning 5 times more alky than gas? thats my question. and ill keep beating that dead horse as long as the horse is incorrect. you come on here and degrade peoples opinion all the time, well 90% of the time any way. but when some one questions you , you get all defensive, also sounds like your buddy needs to find a new alky tuner if hes burning 5 to 1 alky over gas, carry on..........
                            how? Its CALLED racing, the right pedal is on the floor 99.9 percent of the time with a 604 crate in a IMCA modified..

                            haha, jdr performance is our carb builder

                            nothing is incorrect its not just one buddy ding dong, everyone around me who runs on alky burns the same amount of alky...

                            what you should be concentrating on but your not smart enough to figure it out is WHY I burned so little GAS... AND made the SAME power as alky................... that reason is jdr performance. call john he can hook you up, of course its not free or from a junk yard.
                            Last edited by stock car driver; 12-06-2016, 10:45 AM.

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                            • stock car driver
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 3233

                              #15
                              13-15 gallons alky for another guy I just asked, for average night, but if cautions in feature up to 20. top 4 guy 30-45 nights a year
                              Last edited by stock car driver; 12-06-2016, 10:44 AM.

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