Reversion, exhaust in the intake runners?

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  • Kromulous
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3008

    #1

    Reversion, exhaust in the intake runners?

    We had a issue with a lifter and we pulled the Intake, noticed a lot of char in the intake runners, way up passed the head, and lightly in the plenum area. Interesting enough, not a lot in the cylinder head side on the intake ports. The char is black just passed the gasket on the intake side, mounting surface.

    I am thinking reversion? how do you battle it? I am guessing this is not optimum, and were giving up some ponies.

    450 9 degree Darts, wide bore. 30* timing, do not know much about the cam specs. Although with it apart i could put a degree wheel on it if needed.

    Thanks, Krom.

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  • billetbirdcage
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2019

    #2
    Try a shear plate under the carb.

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    • Kromulous
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 3008

      #3
      Guessing you cant run these with a titled type spacer?

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      • billetbirdcage
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2019

        #4
        Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
        Guessing you cant run these with a titled type spacer?
        Should be able too, they generally only a 1/4" or 3/8" thick as long as the under spacer has large enough holes or is an open spacer but may not be as effective, I'm honestly not sure so.....

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        • petesbuyin
          Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 56

          #5
          When I see streaking on the floor of the intake manifold from the head surface to the plenum it is usually an intake gasket that is failing. It will be a black sticky trail, heavier near the head surface and taper to lighter as it gets to the plenum.
          A droop rule is like infield tractor tires, everyone knows it's stupid, but they still keep doing it.

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          • Kromulous
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 3008

            #6
            That's kind of what it looks like, heavier where the intake / head split line is. Black, looks like burnt exhaust, not to much in the intake port itself, and light traces in the plenum. We will get it sealed off right, we didnt put it together last time.

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            • Lizardracing
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 839

              #7
              I would think an indicator would be if this streaking was just one port or all of them. 1 port would leave me to believe it's localized like a intake gasket or crack and the other would make me think more systemic.

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              • let-r-eat
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 2319

                #8
                Late model plus fuel?
                BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                • Kromulous
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3008

                  #9
                  Not sure what it was run on, we just got it. I will check all the runner when i get back to the shop, as i cant remember if it was all of them, or just one. Maybe even one bank over the other.

                  The plan is to run Renegade Super Late or whatever its called, i think its 117 and some other fancy stuff in it LOL.

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                  • SLM98
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 407

                    #10
                    Was told when the engine is on a dyno to hold a timing light over the carburetor, if theres a cloud of fuel you have reversion on work to do. This is with the engine loaded wfo.

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                    • billetbirdcage
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2019

                      #11


                      Jon is the man and brave too.

                      Krom, let us know if you try it, lol.

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                      • Kromulous
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3008

                        #12
                        That video is amazing, crazy how much that reversion can pulse. Pretty cool to see just how much fuel is moving thru them ports etc.

                        So i take it, that true exhaust reversion is when that pulse gets strong enough, that the burnt exhaust charge changes direction and back feeds up thru the intake valve and starts to try and burn the incoming air fuel mixture. Seems really counter productive LOL.
                        Last edited by Kromulous; 03-09-2018, 09:29 AM.

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