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  • jsf74
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 544

    #31
    How much less

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    • Baldwin Racing Engines
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 286

      #32
      In going to IMIS this weekend, the talk of the show again was the LS engines, how they are coming along. We have picked up a few more companies that are wanting to get on board the LS engine program before it really takes off, we have a few more cylinder head options and pistons options coming and these engines have already proven themselves as a very durable, high horsepower and torque making engines. Give us a call for your LS questions here at Baldwin Racing Engines, we can anything thing you have on them. Contact us at 573-225-6886, the aluminum block late model engines will be lighter and the power options are unlimited. The LS based mod engines we have out right now are doing awesome, very good power and torque, very drivable, and the last race our LS engine was at he was 3 tenths faster than the 42 car feild, not to bad. We are working on an alcohol version of the engine right now that we be even better than the others. Big cubic inch, big power, big torque, on a smaller budget than conventional sbc and in a lighter package. You better get one before you get passed by one.

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      • stockcar5
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1289

        #33
        Originally posted by Baldwin Racing Engines View Post
        Big cubic inch, big power, big torque, on a smaller budget than conventional sbc and in a lighter package. You better get one before you get passed by one.

        hmm...a dart shp block is around 175lbs a iron 6.0 block is around 190lbs and a lsx block is 225lbs.

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        • TBRE
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 543

          #34
          We do a lot of them for bracket racers (drag racing), but NONE for dirt. We won 3 out or 4 at East Bay, with a lightened up conventional 388 ci engine a couple of years ago, with Rodney Wing.TB

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          • Baldwin Racing Engines
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 286

            #35
            You dont think that a LSX or std LS block can be lightened, if the weight was a huge factor on the block I dont think that we would have cover the field by 3 tenths up in Penn, keep doughting them and see where your at in a few years.

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            • Baldwin Racing Engines
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 286

              #36
              We also build light SBC mod engines that will run with anybodys in the country, so there is nothing wrong with the old style engines, we are bring the future to motorsports here with the LS engines.

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              • Baldwin Racing Engines
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 286

                #37
                And as far as the aluminum LS blocks go, they are lighter than the sbc with a ton more strenth built in to start with, 6 bolt billet main, 50 mm camshafts are all std parts on even std gm ls blocks.

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                • Baldwin Racing Engines
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 286

                  #38
                  Buy the way, how much power is that Dart SHP block rated for, we have some 6.0 iron blocks that are twin turbo'ed making over 1200hp out there with stock blocks and cranks in them, not sure that the conventional sbc is going to handle that on stock parts. The LS engines are a little heavier but they make it up two fold in strenth and relieablity. Too each is own I guess, I just know how impressive these engines are and they will continue to grow even more dominate in the future.

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                  • TBRE
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 543

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Baldwin Racing Engines View Post
                    You dont think that a LSX or std LS block can be lightened, if the weight was a huge factor on the block I dont think that we would have cover the field by 3 tenths up in Penn, keep doughting them and see where your at in a few years.
                    Can you get an LS down to a 8.875 deck height??? Is your bob-weight under 1600 grams????
                    I don't think you realize the real weight differance, hence, is why they haven't caught on.TB

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                    • Baldwin Racing Engines
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 286

                      #40
                      They havent cought on yet because most guys in the dirt world have no idea there is another option out now, we are bringing that to them vs keeping it from them. It has to do with an engine that was designed for racing by racers that has been used in production now for 14 years with the lastest technology designed right into it, it has nothing to do with deck heights and bob weights. Like I said, we build a ton of old school sbc engines, but if your not looking forward your backing up and this engine is coming like it or not. We love them and they are running great and racing even better, the crate CT525 is winning all over the place and thats just a modified corvette engine and is stock with all stock components and it has wore out the full blown old school engines on many occations. The distibuter option had only been out for a few years and we helped with testing on FMH front cover on the LS engines as well, also if you were at IMIS might have seen all the new stuff the LS engine had built for it by the Comp group for sprint car use, all new gear drive front cover and a regular cover for distibuter driven race cars as well. If its good enough for lightweight sprint cars it good enough for me.

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                      • stockcar5
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1289

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Baldwin Racing Engines View Post
                        You dont think that a LSX or std LS block can be lightened, if the weight was a huge factor on the block I dont think that we would have cover the field by 3 tenths up in Penn, keep doughting them and see where your at in a few years.
                        what i posted has nothing to do with how good or bad ls motors are. i personally like them. i just was pointing out the fact that you lied about the ls engine being lighter than a standard sbc. hate to see more people get taken by a saleman on here. there is enough of that going on.

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                        • stockcar5
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1289

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Baldwin Racing Engines View Post
                          The distibuter option had only been out for a few years and we helped with testing on FMH front cover on the LS engines as well, also if you were at IMIS might have seen all the new stuff the LS engine had built for it by the Comp group for sprint car use, all new gear drive front cover and a regular cover for distibuter driven race cars as well. If its good enough for lightweight sprint cars it good enough for me.
                          the gm front cover pn 88958679 has been out for a long time.

                          schwanke engines in mn has been running ls engines in many sprint cars for years now. this is not new stuff.

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                          • Baldwin Racing Engines
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 286

                            #43
                            I was referring to the aluminum blocks on the lightness, the steel block is a little heavier, I was not lieing about anything. And the front cover has been out for a while on the GM stuff, again not what I was talking about, we tested the first new design in existance from FMH, if you want to check on that you can call Chad there and he will back that up, I am not lieing about anything here. I have the very first one on our engine running up in Penn. I am not a sales man, Baldwin Racing Engines along with a few others are just trying to get the LS engines out into the dirt world is all.

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                            • Baldwin Racing Engines
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 286

                              #44
                              You can go to our website and check out some pics and some of the LS stuff we have been doing, also we are working on some Late Model aluminum stuff as well, as soon as we get it we will it on the site as well. www.baldwinengines.com
                              We have even been building the LS engines now for some of our derby customers around the country with great success there also, these engines have been doing great in all type applications.

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                              • be11
                                Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 36

                                #45
                                baldwin race engines... why is the number 7 cyl always seem to be the cyl to burn a piston??? on stock ls1 that is.

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