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  • jsf74
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 544

    #1

    No bs proven engine combos?

    Being a new racer and with so much info out there related to engines be it chevy ford or dodge it would be helpful to many to hear some proven engine combos out there. The more detailed the better on your description. Part #'s cam specs ect. Some people might want to be super secret but just remember it's the new drivers and fans that continue to move this sport foward and pay the winners earnings. thanks in advance to everyone.
  • ToddSmith16
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2854

    #2
    biggest question is....what is your budget? Then you can use the useful information that is provided. I can bet some info will be well out of your budget if you don't provide what your's is which would be absolutely meaningless to you since you can't afford it. Good luck!

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    • jsf74
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 544

      #3
      I'm just kind o trying to start a place to help others and myself with no real dollar ammount in mind. Just would like to see a broad range of thing that have worked in the past. Anything from $1000 budget builds to 10k plus motors. Post things such as

      Brand
      Size
      Parts used
      Reliability
      If it broke
      Cost
      What u learned ect.

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      • supercomet32
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 186

        #4
        Sorry but something along the lines of a budget are almost required...im nto sure ive ever seen a truly $1000 budget engine....mayb ein theory i fyou dont count the small stuff just in rods pistons heads intake and carb an a preexisting block...but seriously 300 is about minimum just in block prep alone...

        a 406 has been good to me in the past....also like a 377 based on a 400 block....but if your talking more up in the ranks nothing beats cubes in my opinion...about 421 of them is where im at right now...got a 430 in for freshening but they are in the 20k range

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        • stpmotorsports
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 138

          #5
          As for "bang for the buck", the old 383 sbc is hard to beat. Countless races have been won in everything from bombers, b-mods, modifieds, late models and even sprint cars with 383's. I have built several of them over the years, and have had better luck with them than any other combo. I am talking bout the 350 4" bore, 3.750" stroke deal by the way. THe longer stroke makes them tend to have more torque lower in the rpm band and thus not having to turn them as hard, lower rpm=longer life typically.

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          • sj valley dave
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1016

            #6
            Are you serious about asking a question like that?? Is it a class that you have to run a 4412 2bl?? An all iron engine? A 23* aluminum engine? Open cylinder head deal? That is waaaay to general..IMO

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            • Egoracing
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 4852

              #7
              Originally posted by sj valley dave View Post
              Are you serious about asking a question like that?? Is it a class that you have to run a 4412 2bl?? An all iron engine? A 23* aluminum engine? Open cylinder head deal? That is waaaay to general..IMO
              Agree, there is no way to answer this. You could easiy do a $1000 racing engine for a stock 4 cylinder class where nothing but stock is allowed! An engine that dominates winning every race in a hobby stock wont make the feild in a super late model race and may not even be legal in a strictly stock class. Without knowing the rules package or even class of car there is no answer.
              Last edited by Egoracing; 02-28-2012, 06:54 AM.

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              • jsf74
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 544

                #8
                I guess nobody is getting the point of this thread. Nevermind?

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                • joedoozer
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 745

                  #9
                  What did you expect? For people to openly post everything they have spent a small fortune on and a lifetime figuring out? And you asked a question so general, it couldn't possibly be answered. I would gladly give you all the information on my pressure washer engine.

                  8.5 HP Briggs and Stratton
                  I run regular 87 octane pump gas in it.
                  Its all stock, except the rag I use as an air filter.
                  Its not reliable at all, it doesn't want to start when hot.
                  Only problems I have had are a blown head gasket. And it cost me $13 for a new head gasket.
                  What I learned was......don't use carb cleaner to try and start it.

                  That answers all of your questions but I am sure it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
                  Crew Chief "Tip of the day":
                  Most handling problems can be solved by adjusting the screw-ball. It can be difficult to fine tune at times. Explaining yourself loudly and striking it on top of the helmet with a dead blow hammer usually works well.

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                  • dirty white boy
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1238

                    #10
                    try googlin 100 top engine builds on HOTROD.com.... or pick a dollar amount or a class rules,..doubt you will find many lower than 5000 bucks,..lest that make good power an stay together...10,000 ant rare for a super street 4 barrel motor,..all aluminum super late upwards of 50,000
                    white trash motorsports

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                    • LITE-INN
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 12473

                      #11
                      Originally posted by joedoozer View Post
                      What did you expect? For people to openly post everything they have spent a small fortune on and a lifetime figuring out? And you asked a question so general, it couldn't possibly be answered. I would gladly give you all the information on my pressure washer engine.

                      8.5 HP Briggs and Stratton
                      I run regular 87 octane pump gas in it.
                      Its all stock, except the rag I use as an air filter.
                      Its not reliable at all, it doesn't want to start when hot.
                      Only problems I have had are a blown head gasket. And it cost me $13 for a new head gasket.
                      What I learned was......don't use carb cleaner to try and start it.

                      That answers all of your questions but I am sure it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
                      is that a k and n rag lol

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                      • lovinlatemodels
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 486

                        #12
                        This thread is funny i like the Briggs and straton engine can you get some more hp out of it on ALKY haha.

                        Jsf74 giving some info like kind of car size of track would help i'm pretty sure a 430 ci motor on a 3/8 track would be over kill or a 355 ci not enough on a big 1/2. Does this help.

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                        • runyou-2
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1725

                          #13
                          Know BS injun combo meals.

                          Welp,i kinda like the 414 3bolt chevy block with them Mopar hemi heads on it if i can find them used. That will save ya about 6,102 $ and.50 cents right there. Getcha a good used 302 Ford crankshaff and fill the block ALMOST full of concrete.<~~~~ that's gonna cost ya bout another 25 dollars cause the price of concrete jus went up this week.Use a Speedway Motors SOLID camshaff wida 306 duration x .625 E/I lift and Jesel shaft rockers.We got some rods from my friends buddies cousin,he jus gave 'em to me tho.Between 6 of us we got 745.45 a piece in it but i still owe one guy a load of firewood when i find some.Ain't for sure how many pubic inches this dude comes out to be but,man o man,it's cheep and sounds purdy dam good in my sister in laws shed.


                          Oh,i forgot....U will save bout 18 dollars too if U use sack-crete instead of ordering from a truck because most have a 2 yard min.Hope this helps.

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                          • lovinlatemodels
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 486

                            #14
                            Originally posted by runyou-2 View Post
                            Know BS injun combo meals.

                            Welp,i kinda like the 414 3bolt chevy block with them Mopar hemi heads on it if i can find them used. That will save ya about 6,102 $ and.50 cents right there. Getcha a good used 302 Ford crankshaff and fill the block ALMOST full of concrete.<~~~~ that's gonna cost ya bout another 25 dollars cause the price of concrete jus went up this week.Use a Speedway Motors SOLID camshaff wida 306 duration x .625 E/I lift and Jesel shaft rockers.We got some rods from my friends buddies cousin,he jus gave 'em to me tho.Between 6 of us we got 745.45 a piece in it but i still owe one guy a load of firewood when i find some.Ain't for sure how many pubic inches this dude comes out to be but,man o man,it's cheep and sounds purdy dam good in my sister in laws shed.


                            Oh,i forgot....U will save bout 18 dollars too if U use sack-crete instead of ordering from a truck because most have a 2 yard min.Hope this helps.
                            LOL thats great i've been doing it wrong all these years.

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                            • andy16
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 310

                              #15
                              thanks guys lol

                              i needed that laugh omg thats all so funny. must be a young guy or somethin shoulda known he put a target on his back lol. in all seriousness a motor isn somethin to go cheap on. if you dont get the right stuff now you will be throwing away a motor later and then having to go back and buy it all over again.
                              when starting out new you absolutely need two things to have a sucsessful attempt. you need a motor thats a mule meaning not necesarily the most power but will stay together and a quality rolling chassis. skimp on the trailer the hauler paying your girlfriend and all her kids way in to the pits lol none of that stuff ever helped you in a race. cost wise cheapest to do it and it live super street 4,000 llm owm 11,000 slm 20,000 and these aren motors i would brag about but will get the job done. i have built a few combos before pm me i kept my reciepts that have what to buy and how much it cost. my family has a llm shortblock that has been in use since 1989. only changed pistons and heads and has won 19 races in its career and it aint that special.

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