Holley 4412 Needle and Seat Question

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  • BC1
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 9

    #1

    Holley 4412 Needle and Seat Question

    What is the recommended needle and seat size for a 4412 on gas?
  • sj valley dave
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1016

    #2
    I think our Willy's 4412 had a .110 Viton needle and seat

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    • dynoman14
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 1336

      #3
      BC1;

      .110" should flow enough fuel for 500HP, if you have adequate pump, fuel pressure and line size.

      More HP than that you need to move up a size. Usually about 4-7psi is what I run. Some folks run more but I don't like the possible over aeration of the fuel at higher pressures. I used to run 4-5psi on 800HP ARCA engines and never had a problem. Most of the carb parts were BLP or Braswell and I ran larger Titanium needles and seats, just my way of ensuring I kept the bowls full.

      I also like a weighted float in my 4412's ( maybe 18-22 grams ) and a spring loaded needle and seat. If you can't find them I keep both of them in stock. There are a couple major things that need to happen in the metering block if you want them to run right and not pull fuel over thru the boosters under deceleration. I keep them on the shelf also. It is real nice if you start off with a Keith Dorton model as the metering block has 5 adjustable bleeds in the jet well, that you can tune with and tunable PV openings.

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      • 50j
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 1047

        #4
        The dorton 500 has 3 and doesn't have the adjustable block. The dorton 350 does.
        Originally posted by dynoman14 View Post
        BC1;

        .110" should flow enough fuel for 500HP, if you have adequate pump, fuel pressure and line size.

        More HP than that you need to move up a size. Usually about 4-7psi is what I run. Some folks run more but I don't like the possible over aeration of the fuel at higher pressures. I used to run 4-5psi on 800HP ARCA engines and never had a problem. Most of the carb parts were BLP or Braswell and I ran larger Titanium needles and seats, just my way of ensuring I kept the bowls full.

        I also like a weighted float in my 4412's ( maybe 18-22 grams ) and a spring loaded needle and seat. If you can't find them I keep both of them in stock. There are a couple major things that need to happen in the metering block if you want them to run right and not pull fuel over thru the boosters under deceleration. I keep them on the shelf also. It is real nice if you start off with a Keith Dorton model as the metering block has 5 adjustable bleeds in the jet well, that you can tune with and tunable PV openings.

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        • dynoman14
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 1336

          #5
          Oops did I give away another secret ???

          My Dorton 4412HP's are delivered with 5 adjustable emulsion bleeds if the rules don't specify otherwise.

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          • 50j
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 1047

            #6
            That's ridiculous. Just say "OOPS, I made a mistake". You're not fooling anyone.
            Last edited by 50j; 05-13-2012, 10:43 AM.

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