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  • jsf74
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 544

    #1

    When to tear down motor?

    I've only raced about 15 times this year and my motor is still running good. 'knock on wood' !!! Does everyone have there motor freshened every season or what is everyone doing to determin condition? In aviation we do a oil analysis and comp test but not sure on a mild mod motor. This will be a back up motor next year if it makes it thru the next couple of races.
  • dynoman14
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 1336

    #2
    Oil testing is great, as well as compression and leak down. Only really works if you did all that when you put the engine into service, so you have something to compare to.

    I always recommend racers re-fresh after one season because it is way cheaper than waiting it out. If you have rings, bearings and hone charges that is a lot cheaper than waiting and have to get new pistons, bore and re-build.

    Plus, there is always the option of making some cheap improvements like a 5angle Serdi valve job and an new fast ramp custom camshaft designed for your head flow. Just those 2 changes can result in 25-30RWHP.

    Just my opinion after 35 years of racing.

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    • sj valley dave
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1016

      #3
      We leak ours during the season to keep an eye on things, check return oil filters, valve lash and valve springs after every race, etc...We go by the number of laps ran...1200-1300 laps at speed...If you only race 10 times a year and average 50 laps a night, there's no reason to go through that engine...IMO

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      • rcstreet1
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 151

        #4
        with it only havin 15 nights and since its goin to be a back up i wouldnt tear it down.

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        • DANNY
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 791

          #5
          I do a leak test and pull main and rod caps every 15 nights... If it looks good and leak % is in range back out it goes...
          »»*†HÀ†§ HÓ††™««

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          • CNC BLOCKS
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 595

            #6
            I have a 2 barrel 357 that has been going for 11 years now and its leading the points in the tour series its in. 6 championships, I would love to get that engine back.

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            • merc123
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1261

              #7
              I do an oil analysis (Blackstone Labs) at every oil change, valve spring check every so many races and compression testing at the same time as valve springs. You can check valve lash then too.

              I'd recommend getting a leak down tester though. All of my checks were good but for some reason I dropped motor off to builder and he did a leak down and found a tweaked valve. Not tweaked bad but it was cheaper to replace it then than to let it break off or destroy a head.
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              • hucktyson
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 1903

                #8
                Originally posted by CNC BLOCKS View Post
                I have a 2 barrel 357 that has been going for 11 years now and its leading the points in the tour series its in. 6 championships, I would love to get that engine back.
                So the driver and the chassis set up didnt win those races that engine did ???

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                • hucktyson
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 1903

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dynoman14 View Post
                  Oil testing is great, as well as compression and leak down. Only really works if you did all that when you put the engine into service, so you have something to compare to.

                  I always recommend racers re-fresh after one season because it is way cheaper than waiting it out. If you have rings, bearings and hone charges that is a lot cheaper than waiting and have to get new pistons, bore and re-build.

                  Plus, there is always the option of making some cheap improvements like a 5angle Serdi valve job and an new fast ramp custom camshaft designed for your head flow. Just those 2 changes can result in 25-30RWHP.

                  Just my opinion after 35 years of racing.
                  Are you suggesting that the technology you are offering is superior to that of Jack Cornett or RYR or Pro power or Clements ??? Or are you claiming its better than typical garage built stuff ?? I just want to clairify ...

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                  • Rodz
                    Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 34

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
                    So the driver and the chassis set up didnt win those races that engine did ???
                    He was commenting on how many years it has ran and still has enough power to win. To keep going that long, it must be a well built engine.
                    Bob
                    www.avengerraceengines.com

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                    • CNC BLOCKS
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 595

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rodz View Post
                      He was commenting on how many years it has ran and still has enough power to win. To keep going that long, it must be a well built engine.
                      Bob
                      It just won one more championship a couple of weeks ago, But its being retired. Good oil, oil filters and tune ups are a big plus.

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                      • Rodz
                        Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 34

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CNC BLOCKS View Post
                        It just won one more championship a couple of weeks ago, But its being retired. Good oil, oil filters and tune ups are a big plus.
                        After 11 yrs, that thing belongs in the Smithsonian.
                        www.avengerraceengines.com

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                        • lovinlatemodels
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 486

                          #13
                          Our motors run about 15 to 20 races a year, the heads come off every yr for rebuild and the bottom end get new rings and bearing every 2 yrs, and a new timing chain every year.

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                          • CNC BLOCKS
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 595

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rodz View Post
                            After 11 yrs, that thing belongs in the Smithsonian.
                            TOOOOOO Funny

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                            • CNC BLOCKS
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 595

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stock car driver
                              Must be some seriously short series. Ive yet to see a set of rings that will last that long without wear, not to mention I know people who have worn blocks out in less time than your claiming.
                              You must be doing something wrong, I have alot of engines run three long seasons with out a tear down and I am not seeing any problem with worn cylinders like you speak of.

                              If you know what your doing I guess an engine can go more then one season with out any ring or cylinder issues.

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