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  • joedoozer
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 745

    #1

    Oil pump pickup question

    Ok here's the deal.

    In the final stages of a rebuild and I have a Melling M55HV pump that was in my old motor when it blew up. That pump is high pressure, high volume. I never had an issue with pressure, but needed a new one after the blow up.

    I bought a M155HV pump which is standard pressure high volume. I did not realize that the pick up tube on the new pump is a 3/4", and my old pick up does not fit.

    I can not use the old pump because the gears are all pitted.

    Can I use the pump cover from the old H/P-H/V pump on the new S/P-H/V pump? The covers appear to be identical, and the old one is in nice shape.

    The off season budget is planned out to the nickel right now and a new 3/4" pick up costs more than the pump did. The money just isn't there. If I have no options I will will order a new pump, but I am avoiding that if I can. I believe the only difference is the spring, stiffer spring in the older High Pressure pump. Couldn't I just swap springs?
    Last edited by joedoozer; 01-19-2011, 12:39 PM.
    Crew Chief "Tip of the day":
    Most handling problems can be solved by adjusting the screw-ball. It can be difficult to fine tune at times. Explaining yourself loudly and striking it on top of the helmet with a dead blow hammer usually works well.
  • joedoozer
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 745

    #2
    From what I understand of oil pumps is taller gears means more volume, and stiffer spring means more pressure. It appears only the spring is the difference in the covers. I really hope I don't get a "thumbs down" on this......haha I would hate to take the pan back off.
    Crew Chief "Tip of the day":
    Most handling problems can be solved by adjusting the screw-ball. It can be difficult to fine tune at times. Explaining yourself loudly and striking it on top of the helmet with a dead blow hammer usually works well.

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    • stock car driver
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 3233

      #3
      If you want to use that pump buy a pick up for it.

      If you really cant afford a pick up then I guess buy the old style pump and return that pump.

      I run the old style pumps but only a m55a which is high pressure. Theres plenty of volume at the rpm we see.

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      • joedoozer
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 745

        #4
        I'll just call Melling and ask them.
        Crew Chief "Tip of the day":
        Most handling problems can be solved by adjusting the screw-ball. It can be difficult to fine tune at times. Explaining yourself loudly and striking it on top of the helmet with a dead blow hammer usually works well.

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        • fast_crew
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 844

          #5
          make sure you clean the relief valve and check for burrs, or sticking. I would get the 3/4" pickup myself
          Josh K.

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          • joedoozer
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 745

            #6
            Talked to Melling today, the only difference in the covers are the pick up tube size.
            Crew Chief "Tip of the day":
            Most handling problems can be solved by adjusting the screw-ball. It can be difficult to fine tune at times. Explaining yourself loudly and striking it on top of the helmet with a dead blow hammer usually works well.

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            • stock car driver
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 3233

              #7
              Originally posted by joedoozer View Post
              Talked to Melling today, the only difference in the covers are the pick up tube size.
              did they tell you why they used a larger pick up on the newer style pump or say wow youve got a great idea there well send you a check. we never thought about taking our new better pump and choking it down with a smaller pick up than we designed it for....

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              • joedoozer
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 745

                #8
                He said the only difference between the pumps is the pick up tube size. I told him what I was doing and he agreed that it doesn't make any difference. I posted the response for future reference, if anyone searches for something like this.
                Crew Chief "Tip of the day":
                Most handling problems can be solved by adjusting the screw-ball. It can be difficult to fine tune at times. Explaining yourself loudly and striking it on top of the helmet with a dead blow hammer usually works well.

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