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Wanted input on 7.25 clutches for imca style stock car
And this is it. I am going to try and refrain from making any more posts on here. I had signed off a few days ago and saw this post asking for my pics.
So here they are, scrutinize all you want but the facts are the single disc is better, I ran 3 discs for the last 8 years and now know I had a better option. Quartermaster told me their single was enough but I never saw it in person to understand why. The cover has more clamping force and there is way more material to wear in thickness as well as a 1/8 inch more surface area to work with.
I got this single disc in a car I bought turn key and tore apart. I run glides now.
It has now happened twice that a guy who I have helped with information and set up locally has ran me over and beat on my car on entry. Ive also gotten really tired of all the arguing on here every time someone doesnt agree with what a person posts. See the saginaw or muncie thread its rediculous.
Its unfortunate because there will be dumb replies that are absolutely incorrect on here like there are now, go look under the stock car section, there are guys saying a 1 inch lowering block shouldnt lower the guys camaro a inch... jeez how basic can you get.
I will do my best to move on and just take care of myself and my racing program. I will reply to pm on here as I have been it seems daily lately but it wont be daily.
You have proven a single disc has a 1" wide disc and a triple has a 7/8" wide disc. That would be fine if you are only running one disc. However you are failing to realize that a triple disc has 3 - 7/8" wide disc's clamping on 6 surfaces. Some grade school math here.....3 x .875 = 2.625. There is no way in hell a single disc can clamp any more than a triple disc. If this was the case....they never would of made the triple in the first place.
As you lose thickness in your single disc....you also lose clamping force. A triple disc too....but since you are wearing 3 disc equally.....your clamping force remains some what equal.
The part that is even more comical....is after running your mouth for quite some time....you now say you run a powergilde. The reason your getting beat is because of the glide. When IMCA mandated a single disc clutch a few years back....many thought the glide was the way to win. Since IMCA went to allowing a triple disc....I know of very few who run a glide. Most everyone either has a sag, munice, or even the new type direct drive.
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You have proven a single disc has a 1" wide disc and a triple has a 7/8" wide disc. That would be fine if you are only running one disc. However you are failing to realize that a triple disc has 3 - 7/8" wide disc's clamping on 6 surfaces. Some grade school math here.....3 x .875 = 2.625. There is no way in hell a single disc can clamp any more than a triple disc. If this was the case....they never would of made the triple in the first place.
As you lose thickness in your single disc....you also lose clamping force. A triple disc too....but since you are wearing 3 disc equally.....your clamping force remains some what equal.
The part that is even more comical....is after running your mouth for quite some time....you now say you run a powergilde. The reason your getting beat is because of the glide. When IMCA mandated a single disc clutch a few years back....many thought the glide was the way to win. Since IMCA went to allowing a triple disc....I know of very few who run a glide. Most everyone either has a sag, munice, or even the new type direct drive.
Where am I getting beat, lol....thats really funny. Name some front runners who run a manual trans. I know of one... I quit running them 12 races ago which is common knowledge and Ive spoke about it plenty on here.
Single disc has MORE than 3 times the thickness of material as I clearly stated much earlier and according to quarter master it has way more clamping force in the cover to allow it to work while it wears all that down.
In the 10 years I ran 3 discs I NEVER wore the discs evenly, apparently youve never ran one or pulled one apart, the first disc releases first and gets most of the wear, 2nd 2nd and so on.
Its funny though as I was told in PM you cant fix stupid thanks for proving that. And also thanks for reminding me why I dont care about helping on this forum any more, you just sling unproven b.s around on here and I would need to make it a part time job to keep up with you alone.
Anyways, post the list of IMCA stock car front runners who run MANUAL trans.
AUTO and winners of about 200 features last year alone
mike nichols national champ
dustin smith 2nd in national pts
donovan smith
dave smith
brian blessington
keith knopp
jeff anderson
tim bengard
rod richards
doug adamy
darrin adamy
kenny hansen
duane pritchett
jeff turner
eric jones
Yes his disc will have more than one single disc of a tripple but not more then the 3 combined. He also greatly exaggerated the difference between the two in his original banter. His measurement on the tripple looks a little off as well i'm not going to split hairs on him though.
Stockman have you ran the single disc more than 3nites yet? How long did the disc hold up?
Yes his disc will have more than one single disc of a tripple but not more then the 3 combined. He also greatly exaggerated the difference between the two in his original banter. His measurement on the tripple looks a little off as well i'm not going to split hairs on him though.
Stockman have you ran the single disc more than 3nites yet? How long did the disc hold up?
I will honestly say i havent ran one.
Ive never ran one. that came in a car I bought turnkey as i said.
dyno man runs the 3 disc as a single disc some how... lets see the pics.
Split hairs all you want I could care less, thats why there are only a few of us on here with half a brain even sharing info and trying to help others out. The arguing on here is stupid.
I posted the pics. I have both here obviously and I clearly didnt make it up.. I posted my opinion that the single is better than a tripple and why. I also ran tripples for ten years but what do I know.
HAVE any of the other arguers on here posted any data or pics to back up anything? nope and they never do... just babble for the sake of babbling...
If it wasnt for his posts on here parot69777 wouldnt even exhist in the racing world.. There are no results with his name posted, no drivers thanking him for all his expertise in the winners circle in fact he cant even post up his name.
Dyno man claims to make some great clutch out of a 3 disc... where are the pics?
yeah the arguing on here its gettin old,...theres alot of different opinions from different perspectives with different budgets an rules,..along with different ability's an comprehension of subject matter,...some are here to help,..me an others are here to learn,..i already know how to fuse fight argue an be smart azz'd,..its gotten to where no help is offered to these post just another thread of bickering.....keeps on an nobody will be left but a few a'holes
never ran a 7 1/2 clutch of any kind yet,..but if a single disc can handle the load,..it would be lighter weight than a triple i would think???an that would be a advantage would it not?
never ran a 7 1/2 clutch of any kind yet,..but if a single disc can handle the load,..it would be lighter weight than a triple i would think???an that would be a advantage would it not?
agreed but how long can it handle that load? Is it econmical to replace them every ten nights in the type of class its being ran? like someone previously pointed out the single disc's dont seem to last as long. Thats why i asked stock guy if he had used one and how long they last.
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