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how many of these cabinet members are truly on the up and up lol http://cabinet-members.insidegov.com/d/a/Barack-Obama
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wouldn't expect anything more from a never trump guy and sore loser like beck !!!! He's been proven wrong so many times.......................... Why just 2 weeks ago he was dismayed that trump won the election !!! He has gone so far left lately that he himself said he was part of the problem in america but continues to spew the same redderick...................................... Just another sore loserOriginally posted by ss12 View Post
with an apparent axe to grind !!!!!!!
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Simple question. What do kids in America, what was I and anyone else taught in schools? What do we commonly hear our politicians say? "In a democracy........." "This is a democracy" etc. You guys even constantly proclaim that your views represent the majority.
The numbers don't bear that out. The numbers make all those claims a lie. At best, we are divided down the middle. At worst, we lean toward Democratic policies and thinking but structurally (districts, constituencies, etc) we end up with what the majority really don't want.
The facts don't lie. There is a good reason there is an electoral college, and it is because the rural folks who live miles apart in great swathes of rocks, sand or fields and woods would be left out of it altogether. I understand this better than probably most of you. But that doesn't mean the rural folks should be stomping out the voices of the majority who don't live somewhere south of a bean field, over the river and just past the crick.
The electoral college is fine, provided the districts are not gerrymandered to rig the results and eliminate any chance the majority gets the nod. You guys think this is great because its great for your side right now. Take your victory laps, crow all you want, but what are you going to be saying when all those gerrymandered districts turn on your guy and vote the opposite in?
Kind of funny, but while I do not agree with it, at least I can see the potential damage it could do to Republicans in the future and hand the keys over to the Dems completely. In my lifetime. All we need is one more good, solid financial meltdown at the hands of the current crop of money grubbers in office (everything is controlled by Republicans now) and you will see a revolt like you have never seen before and all those solid Republican districts will be carrying the Democrats into total control of everything.
Be careful what you wish for. Just because you win today does not guarantee the victory is yours forever. This is just one election and your guys have 4 years to deliver. We'll see where all this goes.
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Holy smokes. That's the longest and shrillest sore loser dissertation in the history of 4M!! LOL! You really are bitter to the bone. And you're hatred for the rural population of this country is palpable. Nothing less would be expected from a dyed in the wool far lefty.Originally posted by t.nie View PostSimple question. What do kids in America, what was I and anyone else taught in schools? What do we commonly hear our politicians say? "In a democracy........." "This is a democracy" etc. You guys even constantly proclaim that your views represent the majority.
The numbers don't bear that out. The numbers make all those claims a lie. At best, we are divided down the middle. At worst, we lean toward Democratic policies and thinking but structurally (districts, constituencies, etc) we end up with what the majority really don't want.
The facts don't lie. There is a good reason there is an electoral college, and it is because the rural folks who live miles apart in great swathes of rocks, sand or fields and woods would be left out of it altogether. I understand this better than probably most of you. But that doesn't mean the rural folks should be stomping out the voices of the majority who don't live somewhere south of a bean field, over the river and just past the crick.
The electoral college is fine, provided the districts are not gerrymandered to rig the results and eliminate any chance the majority gets the nod. You guys think this is great because its great for your side right now. Take your victory laps, crow all you want, but what are you going to be saying when all those gerrymandered districts turn on your guy and vote the opposite in?
Kind of funny, but while I do not agree with it, at least I can see the potential damage it could do to Republicans in the future and hand the keys over to the Dems completely. In my lifetime. All we need is one more good, solid financial meltdown at the hands of the current crop of money grubbers in office (everything is controlled by Republicans now) and you will see a revolt like you have never seen before and all those solid Republican districts will be carrying the Democrats into total control of everything.
Be careful what you wish for. Just because you win today does not guarantee the victory is yours forever. This is just one election and your guys have 4 years to deliver. We'll see where all this goes.
Better get started on that movement to get the constitution changed to accommodate your urban disdain for the electoral college. All you need is a super majority from both the US House and US Senate and an affirmative vote of the citizens of 38 states to get it done. Better get started, time's a wastin'! LOL!!
5 presidents have been elected without winning the popular vote. John Q. Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, George W. Bush and Donald J. Trump. That is a full 10% of all the presidents ever elected. So don't make out like this is a horrible anomaly that is never supposed to happen. The electoral college is brilliant beyond what most folks comprehend. Those who find it incomprehensible without fail support the losing candidate.
Suck it up tnie, your president is Donald J. Trump for the next 4 years. Are you gonna' protest and be bitter the whole time? I sure hope so!! LOL!!
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Not bitter at all. I am praying he is successful. It's amusing reading how you guys reinterpret what I say and put your own message into my words.
I agree on the electoral college. I do not think it should be done away with. But I would say this: be careful how you behave when it works in your favor. Because it isn't going to take much for all those dyed in the wool Republican Trump supporters to turn on him in an instant if this nation goes to crap under his Presidency.
I think calls to remove the electoral college are knee jerk, populist reactions. I say let President Trump succeed or fail and let the voters decide using the same system that elected him to destroy him.
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Your attempts to mask your bitterness are equally amusing.Originally posted by t.nie View PostNot bitter at all. I am praying he is successful. It's amusing reading how you guys reinterpret what I say and put your own message into my words.
I agree on the electoral college. I do not think it should be done away with. But I would say this: be careful how you behave when it works in your favor.
I promise you I wouldn't behave a bit different if the rapist enabler & defender had won without the most popular votes in regards to the electoral college. Not even a little bit. As I said, the electoral college is brilliant no matter who wins or loses.
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I also remember the far greater mess that Carter left for Reagan. People like you had zero faith in Reagan as President then either. He was maligned as "dumb", "out of touch" and was ridiculed because he came from an acting career into politics. Sound familiar??? Reagan took a far greater mess than Obama inherited and turned it around to a thriving economy in two years.Originally posted by ss12 View PostDo you really think Trump is going to unite this country? As far as the economy goes I guess you forgot the mess that the former republican president left Obama. Are relationship with other countries I would say it is probably better than it was with the former president. So what changes is Trump going to do with the (republican idea) called the affordable health care act? Is it still going to be a law that makes it a mandate that everybody has health care? If he doesn't get rid of the mandate then nothing really changes. Its already went from repeal to making changes. The old bait and hook works every time. Is he going to prosecute Hillary Clinton? I'm not a Obama fan by the way but what he had to work with(the reject Republican party) I think he done a decent job.
I don't pretend to know if Trump can or will do the same, but I do know you (and your ilk) have been saying Trump won't/can't do this or that for over a year now and he's proven you wrong EVERY time. So, I'll take my chances with him.
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If you have children, I prey that you try to let them learn on their own, instead of being ruined with your liberalism. Please don't ruin their minds too.Originally posted by t.nie View PostSo you would be jeering, mocking and hateful toward those you disagree with, put words in the mouths of people you disagree with, and place your own message in their statements no matter who won?
I can believe that.
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That's probly some of his kids doing the protesting!Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View PostIf you have children, I prey that you try to let them learn on their own, instead of being ruined with your liberalism. Please don't ruin their minds too.
Its so sad our generation has raised those spoiled little brats!Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!
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Huh?Originally posted by t.nie View PostSo you would be jeering, mocking and hateful toward those you disagree with, put words in the mouths of people you disagree with, and place your own message in their statements no matter who won?
I can believe that.
You're beginning to sound like litey! LOL!!
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