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  • calverton
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    • Sep 2016
    • 1591

    #16
    He couldn't do any worse then the clown in charge the last 8 years thats for sure, CIRF tnie doesn't hate Trump he hates republicans

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    • calverton
      Banned
      • Sep 2016
      • 1591

      #17
      Originally posted by STRONGERTHANDIRT View Post
      Add Pelosi to the list.
      she should've left 16 years ago

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      • a25rjr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 3774

        #18
        Originally posted by t.nie View Post
        So you guys really don't believe in Democracy or even elected Republic where people can express their opinions and people get to vote for their representatives, you actually embrace authoritarian dictatorship?

        I can honestly say this is probably the saddest post I have ever seen on this website. It's like we are finally seeing the rise of the haters in America and they are demanding anyone who doesn't agree with them be thrown out of THEIR country.

        You guys really aren't the solution to anything in America. You're the problem.

        I think, if this is what the folks on 4m really are, not just people of differing ideologies but who actually believe this level of hatred is what we should aspire to, I will just pray for you. I can honestly say this, you are not a Christian by any stretch of the imagination. You remember that, hear that, and hear it well. Preaching your gospel of hatred and exclusion is Westboro Baptist Church christianity, not Christ like Christianity.

        Your church certainly preaches a very warped Christianity.

        I will share with you what my preacher sent out as his email message to us on Monday, after all the hubbub of the election week.

        Here were his thoughts:



        So what he says to us is in Heaven we will all finally live in peace with each other. I think that's what we should strive for here, too. Notice those scriptures and the message isn't banish the enemy, vanquish those you disagree with, show them who's boss!

        But I guess even on that one, we will just have to agree to disagree on what the Bible really says and how we are to behave as Christians. You can have your brand, and I'll do what Christ said to do. Love god, love your enemy as yourself.
        "doesn't banish the enemy"......Why do you think there will be peace in Heaven, if the enemy isn't banished to HELL! Let me guess.....you're one of those that thinks a loving God wont send people to a devils Hell! Trust me, his word says he will!
        Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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        • dirtdobber45
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 7226

          #19
          Maybe this will help
          Attached Files
          If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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          • a25rjr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 3774

            #20
            Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
            Maybe this will help
            Mud duck, tnie......Help is on the way! lol
            Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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            • dirtdobber45
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 7226

              #21
              Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
              Mud duck, tnie......Help is on the way! lol
              They have a location near you!!! lol
              If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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              • a25rjr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 3774

                #22
                Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
                They have a location near you!!! lol
                They couldn't stand all the Conservatism around me! lol
                Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                • calverton
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 1591

                  #23
                  come on tnie mud cluck sing along https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...e&action=click

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                  • calverton
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 1591

                    #24

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                    • t.nie
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1146

                      #25
                      The problem with you, a25jr, is you miss the point when Jesus said Love God, love your neighbor as yourself.

                      You seem to think it's YOUR job to be GOD and banish all those you disagree with. My goodness, where would God be without you to handle the banishing and condemning people to hell?

                      You could not be more wrong. You act as though you have absolute authority and its your job to speak for God. Except you don't speak for anyone but yourself. You don't even speak like a Christian. You speak like a hater.

                      In church on Sunday, our middle school pastor stood in from of the kids and preached about Islam. She said to them "many of you are hearing that Muslims are all evil, mean people who want to kill all Christians. You see this on the news, you might even hear it at home from your parents. Well, that's wrong. It's a stereotype, and it's wrong. It's not true. There is a very small part of the Muslim religion that does this, and even the majority of Muslims say they are wrong. It's not what Islam is all about. And we shouldn't be spreading those lies."

                      See, I go to a Bible based church that preaches love and acceptance, spreading the gospel of Christ by being kind to people and offering peace, allowing people the free will to choose but not condemning them for their choice not to accept Christ. Not a hater church that is all into wielding the mighty power of God on your personal enemies.

                      You are right. God will condemn many to hell. But that is God who will do that, and he doesn't need you or your hateful mouth to do it for Him. God is perfectly capable of taking care of business. And yes, he is going to take care of business with you too, because you are vastly overstepping your own role in His kingdom, picking and choosing whom to banish, whom you personally hate and then attributing it all to your rock solid steadfast faith.

                      As long as we are the creation, not the Creator, we should abide by the commands given us in the Bible by Jesus, not cherry pick words of God and use them to justify pursuing our own sinful hateful agenda toward people we dislike.

                      Not sure what part of Love others as yourself includes spouting off hateful insults and malice at them and then using your internet access to start posting lists of the others you are supposed to be trying to win to Christ for banishment from your nation because you personally disagree with them and their thinking.

                      Hate isn't love. And your constant attacks of those you disagree with put you at odds with the Christ you claim to represent. Sad to see, but this is what so many outside of the church get subjected to, people like you and all your hate and derision. Sure wouldn't convince me to go to church if all I was going to encounter was you and your lousy attitude.
                      Last edited by t.nie; 11-22-2016, 12:32 PM.

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                      • calverton
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 1591

                        #26
                        As far the Muslim/Islam issue how can you tell the good from the bad

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #27
                          Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                          The problem with you, a25jr, is you miss the point when Jesus said Love God, love your neighbor as yourself.

                          You seem to think it's YOUR job to be GOD and banish all those you disagree with. My goodness, where would God be without you to handle the banishing and condemning people to hell?

                          You could not be more wrong. You act as though you have absolute authority and its your job to speak for God. Except you don't speak for anyone but yourself. You don't even speak like a Christian. You speak like a hater.

                          In church on Sunday, our middle school pastor stood in from of the kids and preached about Islam. She said to them "many of you are hearing that Muslims are all evil, mean people who want to kill all Christians. You see this on the news, you might even hear it at home from your parents. Well, that's wrong. It's a stereotype, and it's wrong. It's not true. There is a very small part of the Muslim religion that does this, and even the majority of Muslims say they are wrong. It's not what Islam is all about. And we shouldn't be spreading those lies."

                          See, I go to a Bible based church that preaches love and acceptance, spreading the gospel of Christ by being kind to people and offering peace, allowing people the free will to choose but not condemning them for their choice not to accept Christ. Not a hater church that is all into wielding the mighty power of God on your personal enemies.

                          You are right. God will condemn many to hell. But that is God who will do that, and he doesn't need you or your hateful mouth to do it for Him. God is perfectly capable of taking care of business. And yes, he is going to take care of business with you too, because you are vastly overstepping your own role in His kingdom, picking and choosing whom to banish, whom you personally hate and then attributing it all to your rock solid steadfast faith.

                          As long as we are the creation, not the Creator, we should abide by the commands given us in the Bible by Jesus, not cherry pick words of God and use them to justify pursuing our own sinful hateful agenda toward people we dislike.

                          Not sure what part of Love others as yourself includes spouting off hateful insults and malice at them and then using your internet access to start posting lists of the others you are supposed to be trying to win to Christ for banishment from your nation because you personally disagree with them and their thinking.

                          Hate isn't love. And your constant attacks of those you disagree with put you at odds with the Christ you claim to represent. Sad to see, but this is what so many outside of the church get subjected to, people like you and all your hate and derision. Sure wouldn't convince me to go to church if all I was going to encounter was you and your lousy attitude.
                          OMG. Just had to try and turn and twist this whole thing. Mirrors are your answer, so keep avoiding them!
                          Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 11-22-2016, 05:52 PM. Reason: I edited this post to be kind.

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                          • calverton
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 1591

                            #28
                            you notice cw tnie won't touch post 24 imagine that

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                            • a25rjr
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 3774

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                              OMG. Just had to try and turn and twist this whole thing. Mirrors are your answer, so keep avoiding them!
                              Some people Cdubya HATE when they are wrong, and get corrected, using their own words! I think you call that immaturity!

                              I have asked t.nie many times what denomination is he, but he refuses to answer. That answer will tell you a lot of what one believes. Many use their denominations theology instead of what the Bible teaches. The word of God is the ultimate authority!
                              Last edited by a25rjr; 11-22-2016, 06:42 PM.
                              Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                              • calverton
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 1591

                                #30
                                just for tnie https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...2c&action=view

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