Where is the NASCAR CHAMPION LOL

[calverton]

it was before in the internet AL gore didn't invent it yet lol

[Raceready]

Link us the proof of Schrader winning 5 classes in one night at one track. I want to read about that 'cause I missed it when it happened. Jack Hewitt won all four classes at the 4 Crown at Eldora and it's universally considered one of the greatest feats in racing history. We all should have heard about Schrader's 5 feature wins in one night on one track. I googled the hell out of the subject and I found nothing. Dirt open wheel racing is the way to Cup racing and NASCAR. Schrader, Gordon, Kenny Irwin Jr., Yeley, Stewart, Newman, Kahne, Blaney and Larson are shining examples. 7 Cup titles and countless victories among those guys. Ya' just can't revise history to fit your narrative. There are too many around here that know better.

Does hot laps and heat races count ?

[CIRF]

Kenny would race wheel barrells raced all 6 classes one night won 5 geuss which one he lost , if you want to NASCAR by the way you trace on asphalt with NASCAR banner any other way will be extremely difficult

Link us the proof of Schrader winning 5 classes in one night at one track. I want to read about that 'cause I missed it when it happened. Jack Hewitt won all four classes at the 4 Crown at Eldora and it's universally considered one of the greatest feats in racing history. We all should have heard about Schrader's 5 feature wins in one night on one track. I googled the hell out of the subject and I found nothing.

Dirt open wheel racing is the way to Cup racing and NASCAR. Schrader, Gordon, Kenny Irwin Jr., Yeley, Stewart, Newman, Kahne, Blaney and Larson are shining examples. 7 Cup titles and countless victories among those guys. Ya' just can't revise history to fit your narrative. There are too many around here that know better.

[calverton]

Kenny Wallace will not buy anything on credit living back in mo

[mudslinger47]

Anytime I went to a dirt track, Kenny might well be there. He would drive anything as we all know. One thing that really surprised me. He is super wealthy, I mean top five of Nascar racers. Apparently, good business man too. LOL

It seems that several of the old NASCAR guys handled their money well, Kenny Wallace bought houses up the wazoo ... I remember Kenny Wallace saying one time when he'd lost a ride, he said, listen people don't worry about any of us drivers in NASCAR if we lose a ride, were all rich and can make it in something else... Kinda appreciated that comment.. Truth stuff is always good...

[calverton]

Kenny would race wheel barrells raced all 6 classes one night won 5 geuss which one he lost , if you want to NASCAR by the way you trace on asphalt with NASCAR banner any other way will be extremely difficult

[TS FAN]

I remember when Kenny S. would race 100+ times a year during his Cup days. As I recall, he was told by his NASCAR owner to stop it out of concern for his primary ride. At the Copper Classic he would win in 2 open wheel divisions. He also ran his Federated Auto parts SLM at the Wild West Shootout. I believe he won at Manzanita one year. I always admired his love of racing. He was a very talented driver in ANYTHING with 4 wheels.

Anytime I went to a dirt track, Kenny might well be there. He would drive anything as we all know. One thing that really surprised me. He is super wealthy, I mean top five of Nascar racers. Apparently, good business man too. LOL

[CIRF]

What Tony was given an equal ride now that's rich Kenny Schrader had a superior ride and couldn't win in a late model as far as the cup ride as been told before most late model racers want to race not 39 times a year he11 half their season would be over by March lol you have to ask yourself why drivers like Saldana or Schatz didn't to go to NASCAR either

All of your hand wringing and huffing and puffing can't change the fact that the guys mentioned could easily be perennial stars in dirt late models given adequate experience and learning curve. I've worked with a multiple FALS late model track champion when he was winning some of those championships and it's not rocket science. It's hard work and it takes talent but it's not something that can't be done by talented people from any form of racing given the tools and time to master the learning curve. You try to make the case that being a competitive dirt late model team requires more talent and is the hardest thing to do in racing. Only in your weird and tiny little world is that true. Too many sidewalk faceplants may be the problem there.

The most logical and most plausible reason Saldana and Schatz haven't gone on to the riches and fame of NASCAR is they probably have never been offered a ride. I seriously doubt they've turned down quality Cup rides. Simple as that.

Now, go order your Chili Bowl PPV and enjoy REAL dirt racing starting on January 10th!! It might help you get past your acute case of late model tunnel vision, but I doubt you're smart enough! LOL!!

I remember when Kenny S. would race 100+ times a year during his Cup days. As I recall, he was told by his NASCAR owner to stop it out of concern for his primary ride. At the Copper Classic he would win in 2 open wheel divisions. He also ran his Federated Auto parts SLM at the Wild West Shootout. I believe he won at Manzanita one year. I always admired his love of racing. He was a very talented driver in ANYTHING with 4 wheels.

All very true, fcg. I read his book and KS was clear that he never wanted to get involved with something so specialized that he couldn't venture into other racing activities. As far as his Hendrick Motor Sports days are concerned, no one has had any lasting success in the HMS #25 car. Off the top of my head Schrader probably was as successful as anyone accept for the short time Tim Richmond was teamed up with Harry Hyde.

[formercrewguy]

I remember when Kenny S. would race 100+ times a year during his Cup days. As I recall, he was told by his NASCAR owner to stop it out of concern for his primary ride. At the Copper Classic he would win in 2 open wheel divisions. He also ran his Federated Auto parts SLM at the Wild West Shootout. I believe he won at Manzanita one year. I always admired his love of racing. He was a very talented driver in ANYTHING with 4 wheels.

[calverton]

What Tony was given an equal ride now that's rich Kenny Schrader had a superior ride and couldn't win in a late model as far as the cup ride as been told before most late model racers want to race not 39 times a year he11 half their season would be over by March lol you have to ask yourself why drivers like Saldana or Schatz didn't to go to NASCAR either

[CIRF]

no because they sucked at it just like kenny in NASCAR never set the world and kenny had the best in both types of cars none of those drivers ever one big late model race either and may be this will get thru your thick skull many of the DLM DRIVERS are happy where they are at its the open wheel guys want to jump ship atleast usac guys you don't woo sprints drivers jumping ship either why because they get a nice pay check and more importantly they want to race more than 36 times a year

Like I said, given equal equipment and sufficient experience any one of those guys could be huge stars in dirt late models. They chose to advance their careers and better themselves and dirt late models weren't going to get them where they wanted to go. That's why The Chili Bowl is arguably the biggest race of the year and gets all of the exposure and publicity. No self respecting late model driver would even dream of accepting a Cup ride! NOT!! LOL! Your argument is ill conceive, stupid and makes no sense. But I reckon that's the world you live in and you seem to get better at it as time goes by. LOL!!

[calverton]

no because they sucked at it just like kenny in NASCAR never set the world and kenny had the best in both types of cars none of those drivers ever one big late model race either and may be this will get thru your thick skull many of the DLM DRIVERS are happy where they are at its the open wheel guys want to jump ship atleast usac guys you don't woo sprints drivers jumping ship either why because they get a nice pay check and more importantly they want to race more than 36 times a year

[CIRF]

do you know why kenny didn't concentrate on dirt late models it's real simple he couldn't win in one and stewie couldn't in one neither could matt westfal schatz or Tim Mccreadieopen wheel guys basically race against the same bunch all the time except the chili bowl late model guys or mod guys have no clue who might show up and beat them

It's not hard to figure why Schrader didn't concentrate on dirt late models. It's the same reason stewy didn't, and why Gordon didn't, and why Kahne didn't, and why Newman didn't, and why Larson didn't. It's because they wanted to quickly advance their career's and become rich and famous. You don't get there by winning dirt late model races, you get there by winning in dirt open wheel cars and it's been proven repeatedly. Any one of those aforementioned drivers are more than talented enough to win big in late models given equal equipment. It's just that they were smart enough to recognize there was no future beyond DLM's.

Now, stop saying stupid $hit about subjects you know nothing about. Okay?!! LOL!

[calverton]

What types of cars did both concentrate their efforts on and in what type cars were they driving when they won championships in when they got noticed? Here's a hint, it wasn't dirt late models. Schrader won the 1982 USAC Silver Crown Championship and the 1983 USAC Sprint car championship and he was the USAC Stock Car division rookie of the year in 1980. He also drove some midgets back in those days as well but never won the championship. Schrader did very little, if any, dirt late model racing prior to leasing Elmo Langley's Cup car in 1984 and ultimately catching on with Junie Dunlavey in 1985.stewys path to Indy Car was paved with his focus and success in USAC Silver Crown, USAC sprint cars and USAC midgets. He was the USAC National Midget Champion in 1994 & '95. The success in USAC propelled him to getting an IRL ride in 1996. Winning the 1997 IRL championship got him a ride with Gibbs in 1999. stewy's frequent foray's into dirt late model racing did not parallel his USAC carreer. He was racing full time in all 3 National divisions of USAC. He has ran a dirt late a fair amount but it wasn't during his full time USAC days. If he drove dirt late's during his USAC days or before it was rare.Come on mr. stewart head!! You should know this stuff!!Are ya' ready to man up and come clean as to what your beef with Jimmie is? LOLOL!!!

do you know why kenny didn't concentrate on dirt late models it's real simple he couldn't win in one and stewie couldn't in one neither could matt westfal schatz or Tim Mccreadieopen wheel guys basically race against the same bunch all the time except the chili bowl late model guys or mod guys have no clue who might show up and beat them

[CIRF]

I was responding to your last line about only one of the nine racing LM and he did it for fun. I was adding a second driver who did the same. As for your ribbing me, I understand, but not every time I say something. It kind of stymies any real conversation.

Point taken and so noted.