Illinois Entertainment Tax

[kidrock]

Well we finally agree on one thing. Ill. is basically broke because of Chicago. Just not long ago the Republican Governor cut payments on the Ill. Lottery due to miss handling of lotto funds. The money was to be used for education, it when to Chicago to pay for the broke Teachers pensions. The democrats used their power to sway the treasurer to fund the teachers union pension.I am sure you know that right?

Yes Illinois is broke because of Chicago and the politicians over spending. After Jim Thompson was finally done he had the state in a mess then, Jim Edgar took over and with the help of Madigan they turned the state around and we had a surplus then, George Ryan took over and and between he and Madigan they spent like crazy with his massive infastructure program and from there the spending and stealing the money from the pension system has made a mess of things. We can blame the Democrats for that. Now we have a Governor and Madigan that can't even get a budget passed because, of their ego's and its really taking a toll on this state. It's not like Madigan can't work with a Republican governor because, he did it with Jim Edgar and like I said turned the state around.

Believe me if It wasn't for my family and my wife's mom we would be gone from this state.

Like I said I worked at the Capitol for 20 years so, I seen a lot in those 20 years and made good friends on both sides of the isle.

[gator 49]

Yes Illinois is broke because of Chicago and the politicians over spending. After Jim Thompson was finally done he had the state in a mess then, Jim Edgar took over and with the help of Madigan they turned the state around and we had a surplus then, George Ryan took over and and between he and Madigan they spent like crazy with his massive infastructure program and from there the spending and stealing the money from the pension system has made a mess of things. We can blame the Democrats for that. Now we have a Governor and Madigan that can't even get a budget passed because, of their ego's and its really taking a toll on this state. It's not like Madigan can't work with a Republican governor because, he did it with Jim Edgar and like I said turned the state around.

Believe me if It wasn't for my family and my wife's mom we would be gone from this state.

Like I said I worked at the Capitol for 20 years so, I seen a lot in those 20 years and made good friends on both sides of the isle.

I live in Ill. also and kind of in the same problem. Wife and family don't want to move. We have had more governors go to prison than any other state, isn't that a great record.

[kidrock]

I live in Ill. also and kind of in the same problem. Wife and family don't want to move. We have had more governors go to prison than any other state, isn't that a great record.

It's nothing to be proud of that's for sure.

[Bubstr]

I live in Ill. also and kind of in the same problem. Wife and family don't want to move. We have had more governors go to prison than any other state, isn't that a great record.

I have to say that is something to be proud of. Most states don't care enough to prosecute. They just walk. Illinois dose not have proprietary rights on criminal government. Maybe more practice . Even the Federal government has a problem, putting the criminals in jail. If the truth be known, the one's that get jail time, get it for stealing from the party, not the public. How dare they steal the stolen goods the Democratic party already stole. That pay to play money, belongs to the party.

[kidrock]

I have to say that is something to be proud of. Most states don't care enough to prosecute. They just walk. Illinois dose not have proprietary rights on criminal government. Maybe more practice . Even the Federal government has a problem, putting the criminals in jail. If the truth be known, the one's that get jail time, get it for stealing from the party, not the public. How dare they steal the stolen goods the Democratic party already stole. That pay to play money, belongs to the party.

That might be something to be poroud that they are prosocuted but, not that we live in a state where in continually keeps happening.

[Bubstr]

Well we finally agree on one thing. Ill. is basically broke because of Chicago. Just not long ago the Republican Governor cut payments on the Ill. Lottery due to miss handling of lotto funds. The money was to be used for education, it when to Chicago to pay for the broke Teachers pensions. The democrats used their power to sway the treasurer to fund the teachers union pension.I am sure you know that right?

I have to disagree a little bit on the Union thing. That was AFSME union and includes Firemen, Police City and State employees that had an agreement for a pension in place of lower wages. Not only Chicago but every state and city government spent the pension money. They let it slide till it was too late to make the promise good. That is exactly what happened. It was Republican cities as well as Democratic. But your right about Chicago, taking more of the tax revenue than it contributes. That made it easier to spend that pension money.

[gator 49]

I have to disagree a little bit on the Union thing. That was AFSME union and includes Firemen, Police City and State employees that had an agreement for a pension in place of lower wages. Not only Chicago but every state and city government spent the pension money. They let it slide till it was too late to make the promise good. That is exactly what happened. It was Republican cities as well as Democratic. But your right about Chicago, taking more of the tax revenue than it contributes. That made it easier to spend that pension money.

The Chicago Teachers Pension is flat broke. Reports say 10,000 teachers will be collecting retirement benefits of 100,000 dollars per yr. or more by end of this year. That does not include police, fire, or city workers. Teachers alone cost 1 billion this year, who do you think is paying that?

[balljoint]

All you Illinois people

get out there and support Toby Keith. And ofcourse those who support him.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/toby-keith-to-perform-at-naperville-ribfest-/1735904/

[Clayton_Wetter]

The Chicago Teachers Pension is flat broke. Reports say 10,000 teachers will be collecting retirement benefits of 100,000 dollars per yr. or more by end of this year. That does not include police, fire, or city workers. Teachers alone cost 1 billion this year, who do you think is paying that?

The Chicago teachers Union is a crime to all taxpayers in that state. Then you add all of the rest of those unions for city services, it's just horrible, and the elected people that created it did it all for power and elections. They were bought and paid for by the unions and donors.

[Bubstr]

The Chicago Teachers Pension is flat broke. Reports say 10,000 teachers will be collecting retirement benefits of 100,000 dollars per yr. or more by end of this year. That does not include police, fire, or city workers. Teachers alone cost 1 billion this year, who do you think is paying that?

The government was supposed to put so much in each year. That was part of the teachers pay. You and I paid the taxes to do that. They spent the money and now want us to pay again or cheat the teachers out of their pay. I guess we have that coming for electing crooked politicians. If you look, most teachers will not be collecting anywhere close to over $100,000, but it's still more than the taxpayer can afford.

[CIRF]

If this pension thing goes like I think it's going to go there are a whole lotta' good people who will get royally screwed. The wife of one of our best friends is is a teacher who's about 4 or 5 years from being able to retire. Due to pension rules she is exempt from Social Security and she's never paid into it and will be 100% dependent upon the teachers pension for the rest of her live. Since she started teaching right out of college she's got nearly 30 years in right now and is eligible for full pension benefits soon.

[balljoint_]

Look at Dallas. Chicago is next

[Bubstr]

The Chicago teachers Union is a crime to all taxpayers in that state. Then you add all of the rest of those unions for city services, it's just horrible, and the elected people that created it did it all for power and elections. They were bought and paid for by the unions and donors.

What you just typed here says it wasn't the Unions fault at all. They where representing people just like us. If they paid politicians to cut that deal. We should not have voted in those politicians. We should have put a better candidate to run against them. Sorry It is our fault and you can blame every one else but It's still our fault. We shouldn't have said, it's no use trying. We own it and now we are going to pay for it. Same for the SS deal in Washington.

[balljoint_]

Not to hijack, but how do you Illinoisians feel about what led to GREAT American Hero Ryan Owen's death?