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  • Clayton_Wetter
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 16671

    #31
    Originally posted by kidrock View Post
    Let's see they have had what 7 years to come up with a plan and they still don't have a plan so, it was smoke and mirrors to please their base with all these bills passed in the house to repeal obamacare that went nowhere and they knew it wouldn't but, you would have thought they would have a plan by now.
    There are plans created but not partisan support.Thank you for keeping true to form and finding ways to put down Republicans and other Democrat oppositions. Never gonna wise up? Still time.

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    • kidrock
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 16406

      #32
      Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
      There are plans created but not partisan support.Thank you for keeping true to form and finding ways to put down Republicans and other Democrat oppositions. Never gonna wise up? Still time.
      7 years and counting but, like I said I understand 7 years is not that long.

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      • Clayton_Wetter
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 16671

        #33
        Originally posted by kidrock View Post
        7 years and counting but, like I said I understand 7 years is not that long.
        The will has to be there, not just a plan. SO that's the real problem. But kid yourself.

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        • TS FAN
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 4236

          #34
          Originally posted by kidrock View Post
          7 years and counting but, like I said I understand 7 years is not that long.
          Reps have had about 2 weeks of control. Where do you get 7 years? Who was President with the veto pen? As I said, Ryan for sure has a plan, but they must go step by step. It may take a year. There are so many parts to it. If you rush like the libs did, you wind up with another mess. Makes sense to me.

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          • Clayton_Wetter
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 16671

            #35
            Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
            Reps have had about 2 weeks of control. Where do you get 7 years? Who was President with the veto pen? As I said, Ryan for sure has a plan, but they must go step by step. It may take a year. There are so many parts to it. If you rush like the libs did, you wind up with another mess. Makes sense to me.
            Liberals can say anything, regardless of facts. Go figure.

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            • TS FAN
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 4236

              #36
              Facts and Liberals = Strangers. LOL

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              • kidrock
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 16406

                #37
                Fact Obamacare signed into law on March of 2010, Fact Republicans have been trying to repeal the law for almost 7 years, Fact they have had almost 7 years to come up with a plan, Fact they still have no clear plan on what to do, Fact parts of obamacare will stay.

                Facts and Conservatives = Alternative Facts lol

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                • Bubstr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3734

                  #38
                  Here are the facts. Both Libs and Conservitives are loaded with alternative facts. No one side has any high ground when it comes to Congress. Go back to Bush years and Republicans had majority and the Democrats played blocker. Then Dem had majority and the Repubicans played blocker. During the last term of Obama the Democrats wanted to fix Obama care and the Republicans blocked. Now They want to fix it and Democrats are Blocking. It would have made Obama look good or now, Trump. Both aren't worth the food they eat. They play games while the Middle class suffers. Reminds you of playing a fiddle while the city burns.

                  Ever wonder why there is no good fix for health care? It is the different interest groups involved. Insurance don't want to give anything up. Hospitals and Doctors, don't want to give anything up. The people don't want to give anything up. The employers don't want to give anything up. The Politicians don't want to give anything up. If you go threw that list, who can afford to give anything and why would they?

                  Hospitals need to make a profit, to stay open. Doctors feel they deserve what they get because of education expense. Nursing is a dirty job, I don't care who you are and there is a education cost. One hospital near me wants it's own Drs at a fixed cost. Some signed on but the whole cardiac team bailed out and no longer practice there. The hospital needs to show a profit and wages are the only thing they have any control over. Bills are for the most part dictated by the government and are based on results more than services rendered. There are a lot of denied bills. Ins and Medicare don't want to pay bills. Employers don't want to pay wages that can afford ins. especially when they can get public aid or ins paid for by us. Pharmaceuticals don't want to give up any profit, or even allow meds to be re imported from Canada back to the US, where they came from, or not paying tax on some meds because R&D is located In Ireland.We have the most expensive health care cost and about 8th in the world for results. There is sommething wrong with that picture.

                  As you can see, some can give a little and some don't have any give left. The one that can change it, Congress, doesn't want to give up the pay for play, they are getting now.
                  Last edited by Bubstr; 02-06-2017, 10:34 AM.

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                  • just dust
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 260

                    #39
                    Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                    Let's see they have had what 7 years to come up with a plan and they still don't have a plan so, it was smoke and mirrors to please their base with all these bills passed in the house to repeal obamacare that went nowhere and they knew it wouldn't but, you would have thought they would have a plan by now.
                    Yes and Hillery has had how long . And Trump he hasen't had 7 years just a few weeks,
                    done more than all in 30 years . You are the one who has been fooled by smoke and mirrors
                    you show us anything that's was better be for the last ass that has f . ucked us all . and then
                    tell us why . except for the racist the blacks don't like him . or Billery . And before Trump
                    the Republicans did not have anyone who could beat Hillery , is why they never was prepared
                    to have a plan . Than god for Trump . It would have only taken Hillery 4 years to have sold
                    the rest of our country .

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #40
                      Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                      Fact Obamacare signed into law on March of 2010, Fact Republicans have been trying to repeal the law for almost 7 years, Fact they have had almost 7 years to come up with a plan, Fact they still have no clear plan on what to do, Fact parts of obamacare will stay.

                      Facts and Conservatives = Alternative Facts lol
                      FACT!!! Your facts are only wet farts. lol

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                      • kidrock
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 16406

                        #41
                        Originally posted by just dust View Post
                        Yes and Hillery has had how long . And Trump he hasen't had 7 years just a few weeks,
                        done more than all in 30 years . You are the one who has been fooled by smoke and mirrors
                        you show us anything that's was better be for the last ass that has f . ucked us all . and then
                        tell us why . except for the racist the blacks don't like him . or Billery . And before Trump
                        the Republicans did not have anyone who could beat Hillery , is why they never was prepared
                        to have a plan . Than god for Trump . It would have only taken Hillery 4 years to have sold
                        the rest of our country .
                        I'm not sure if you know or not but, Hillary lost the election and we should all be glad of that so, it's time to move on.

                        You can spin however you want but, the fact remains they still don't have a plan they can put up for a vote and now we are hearing it might not be able to put a plan on the table until next year.

                        Like I said I understand 7 years is not that long.

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                        • kidrock
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 16406

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                          FACT!!! Your facts are only wet farts. lol
                          I see nothing you can dispute what I said because, those were facts and not your favotite alternative facts lol

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                          • Clayton_Wetter
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 16671

                            #43
                            Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                            I see nothing you can dispute what I said because, those were facts and not your favotite alternative facts lol
                            Parroting the liberal nonsense "alternative facts" don't cut it. But you are probably much safer playing with plastic knives.

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                            • Clayton_Wetter
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 16671

                              #44
                              Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                              I'm not sure if you know or not but, Hillary lost the election and we should all be glad of that so, it's time to move on.

                              You can spin however you want but, the fact remains they still don't have a plan they can put up for a vote and now we are hearing it might not be able to put a plan on the table until next year.

                              Like I said I understand 7 years is not that long.
                              So "I HEAR" is the basis of your argument? Ever try juggling plastic knives?

                              Call someone else's post a spin, but boy you showed us with "I HEAR"?

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                              • kidrock
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 16406

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                                So "I HEAR" is the basis of your argument? Ever try juggling plastic knives?

                                Call someone else's post a spin, but boy you showed us with "I HEAR"?

                                Like I said I know 7 years is not that long. Maybe sometime next year the Republicans can come up with a plan by then it will be year 8 and that's not that long either lol

                                8 years in the making. I think they're afraid Trumpcare won't work out and they will own it. If they keep delaying they lose their talking points to use against the dems. These guys are suppose to be the brightest and smartest we have and 8 years really. they have already backed away from their rhetoric they were going to fully repeal it. Then they said repeal and replace, then it was keep part of Obamacare, now it's repeal replace repair heck we really don't know what to do. Lol.

                                They are realizing it's not as easy as they thought it would be.

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