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  • CIRF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #31
    Originally posted by kidrock View Post
    First I have to laugh so, allow me a moment, lmao!!!

    That's why I have respect for you because ,you know dam well Obama is a smart guy. Now with that being said, I really don't know what to believe anymore and that my friend is the sadest part about our country and politics right now.
    Kid, I'm with ya' 100%. The continued corruption of the mainstream media, social media and political internet publications on both sides of the equation all have no regard for what is true and what's not which only serves to exacerbate the deterioration the credibility of the information we're fed. I fear it will worsen before it gets any better, if it ever does get any better.

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    • kidrock
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 16407

      #32
      Originally posted by CIRF View Post
      Kid, I'm with ya' 100%. The continued corruption of the mainstream media, social media and political internet publications on both sides of the equation all have no regard for what is true and what's not which only serves to exacerbate the deterioration the credibility of the information we're fed. I fear it will worsen before it gets any better, if it ever does get any better.
      I agree, It would be great if we could have just one news organization that would tell the truth. Not report on a story until they know the truth and not just be the first to report it. I'm so sick of hearing you heard it here first here and then we find it's not accurate. And yes your right its both sides.
      I wish for all of us it gets better but, I'm not sure it ever will.

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      • MUD MAESTRO
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 5231

        #33
        Trump gave Obama and the crooked Dems a chance to play nice but now the the gloves are off. That thieving muslim Obama and the Clintons are done. They stole our country blind and divided it almost beyond repair. If the republican are truly united they can steamroll over the Dems at every turn. FBI Comey is dirty along with the NSA and CIA. Let's face facts the leaking of information is all on the NSA. Trump must purge these institutions of the left leaning ideology of Obama.

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        • Clayton_Wetter
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 16671

          #34
          Originally posted by balljoint View Post
          Obama may be indicted for the wire tap scandal
          Lt Col Tony Shaffer: "We are talking about the potential of indictments of a former sitting president and his staff.

          Yep, This is worse than watergate by a long shot. Not to mention THE FOLLOWING JUDGES ARE TOAST!

          The exact judges who approved the Trump wiretap by Obama
          And yes, the Clintons and corrupt judges were involved.
          IMPORTANT: WHEN THESE JUDGES GET FLUSHED, IGNORE THE MSM SPIN, THERE WAS A REASON!
          I do not usually post other people's work, but this is too well done and too important, this HAS TO go viral
          Obama could not get a wire tap on Trump legitimately, so he worked behind the scenes with an appeals court in secret. This is an expose' of the corrupted judges who made it possible to wiretap Trump, and is the source of the leaks. These judges need to HANG. This is FAR WORSE than Watergate.

          The following was posted to a popular forum:

          "All this info is on the internet...

          You have to remember the acting attorney general for Obama pursued this and was turned down by the Fisa court which is a court of differing appointee's, appointed By Bush, Reagan, Carter, Obama and Bill clinton. So the non partisan committee turned down the request, so it goes to the appeal court which just happened to be all Clinton appointed judges, now we understand why he met with the attorney general on that plane in secret.

          Denials of FISA applications by the FISC may be appealed to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review. The Court of Review is a three judge panel. Since its creation, the court has come into session twice: in 2002 and 2008.

          Who are these judges who approved the Fisa warrantAppeal on President Trump...

          fisc.uscourts.gov

          William C. Bryson, (Presiding)
          Biographical Directory of Federal Judges
          Bryson, William Curtis
          Born 1945 in Houston, TX

          Federal Judicial Service:
          Judge, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit
          Nominated by William J. Clinton on June 22, 1994, to a seat vacated by Howard Thomas Markey. Confirmed by the Senate on September 28, 1994, and received commission on September 29, 1994. Assumed senior status on January 7, 2013.

          Judge, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, 2011-present; presiding judge, 2013-present
          Education:
          Harvard University, A.B., 1969
          University of Texas School of Law, J.D., 1973

          Professional Career:
          Law clerk, Hon. Henry J. Friendly, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, 1973-1974
          Law clerk, Hon. Thurgood Marshall, Supreme Court of the United States, 1974-1975
          Private practice, Washington, D.C., 1975-1978
          Assistant to the solicitor general, U.S. Department of Justice, 1978-1979
          Chief, Appellate Section, Criminal Division, U.S. Department of Justice, 1979-1982
          Special counsel, Organized Crime and Racketeering Section, Criminal Division, U.S. Department of Justice, 1982-1986
          Deputy solicitor general, U.S. Department of Justice, 1986-1994
          Deputy associate attorney general (acting associate attorney general), U.S. Department of Justice, 1994

          Bryson www.fjc.gov

          Jose A. Cabranes

          Biographical Directory of Federal Judges
          Cabranes, Jose Alberto
          Born 1940 in Mayaguez, Puerto Rico

          Federal Judicial Service:
          Judge, U.S. District Court, District of Connecticut
          Nominated by Jimmy Carter on November 6, 1979, to a seat vacated by Jon O. Newman. Confirmed by the Senate on December 5, 1979, and received commission on December 10, 1979. Served as chief judge, 1992-1994. Service terminated on August 12, 1994, due to appointment to another judicial position.

          Judge, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit
          Nominated by William J. Clinton on May 24, 1994, to a seat vacated by Richard J. Cardamone. Confirmed by the Senate on August 9, 1994, and received commission on August 10, 1994.

          Judge, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, 2013-present

          Education:
          Columbia University, A.B., 1961
          Yale Law School, J.D., 1965
          University of Cambridge, Queens` College, M.Litt., 1967

          Professional Career:
          Supervisor in law, Queens' College, University of Cambridge, England, 1966-1967
          Private practice, New York City, 1967-1971
          Associate professor of law, Rutgers University School of Law, 1971-1973
          Special counsel, Gov. Rafael Hernandez Colon, Puerto Rico, Washington, D.C., 1973-1975
          General counsel/director of government relations, Yale University, 1975-1979

          Jose www.fjc.gov

          Tallman, Richard C.

          Biographical Directory of Federal Judges
          Tallman, Richard C.
          Born 1953 in Oakland, CA

          Federal Judicial Service:
          Judge, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
          Nominated by William J. Clinton on October 20, 1999, to a seat vacated by Betty Binns Fletcher. Confirmed by the Senate on May 24, 2000, and received commission on May 25, 2000.

          Judge, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, 2014-present
          Education:
          University of Santa Clara (now Santa Clara University), B.Sc., 1975
          Northwestern University School of Law, J.D., 1978

          Professional Career:
          Law clerk, Hon. Morell E. Sharp, U.S. District Court, Western District of Washington, 1978-1979
          Trial attorney, Criminal Division, U.S. Department of Justice, 1979-1980
          Assistant U.S. attorney, Western District of Washington, 1980-1983
          Private practice, Seattle, Washington, 1983-2000
          Tallman - www.fjc.gov
          Could this be justice coming at last???

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          • balljoint
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1774

            #35
            Those 3 FISC lawyers were all picked by the Trilateral Commission Brzezinski in 78-79.

            I doubt justice will be served. 90% of these judges are bought.

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            • balljoint
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 1774

              #36
              Comey shut Trump down - there will be no wire tap prosecution
              From here they will back stab Trump and oust him, this now probably equals game over. Americans now get to witness a totally failed government that is so infiltrated and usurped that there is no way to take it back. Everyone in the conspiracy community warned this would happen, and now we all get to watch it happen.

              Actually we are not seeing anything new with this, we are only seeing reality come out into the open after Trump forced it into the open. I quite frankly don't know what to say or do with this absent a properly directed civil war.

              So where are we now? We are at:

              1. The President can't overcome corruption in non-elected positions, the CIA and FBI out rank him and can simply shut him down. That is a serious crisis, unelected positions are supposed to have ZERO power, except for the supreme court. The only thing that made this reality is exactly what conspiracy theorists have said all along, now watch the results of zero action against it for decades unfold.

              2. The enemy owned private sector has now, due to zero enforcement of anti trust laws for 30 years, grown as powerful as the government, if not more powerful. This has allowed a situation where sites like Google and Facebook and even ICANN can kill whoever they want. This is not supposed to be allowed to happen, yet here it is, and nothing can stop it when the government is completely corrupt, and will do nothing.

              3. The enemy entirely owns all media that can come across a television or Facebook, except in very limited "we have to prove we are not totally censored" 3 cent hand outs to provide a thin veil of legitimacy with regard to openness. Forget Fox News, they'd never come clean on 911 and absent that they are as bad as the rest of them and exist only to pander to concerned Americans while providing a phoney alternate view.

              4. The enemy entirely owns all mainstream medicine and is using mainstream medicine to destroy the population. Be it tainted vaccines, antidepressants, ridiculously over priced medical that is like a knife to the throat and casts people into poverty for things that elsewhere are simple cures and treatments, outright sabotage of health leading to cancers and many other maladies, corruption of alternate cures even in mainstream pharmacies which test out as completely fake while sold at top dollar, the list goes on and on. There is no way to fix the medical system, it like the previous 3 items needs to be completely trashed. If you can't trust your doctor because he's a big pharma sell out, it is time to hit reboot.

              5. The enemy is currently making ALL computing platforms, and if anyone steps into the scene with anything new that is not completely hacked and can compete, they are either blocked from stores like the Amiga, or simply killed like Steve Jobs, who was actually a decent guy. You can forget the future of computers, I'd say if you want anything decent get an old Athlon thunderbird, rip the wifi out and run it offline with late 90's or early 2000's software only. The internet will soon be useless anyway, Google is working hard on that.

              6. We currently live in a world where everyone carries a spy device that is the NSA's lucid dream. If you can't even convince a conspiracy theorist to not carry a smart phone there will be no civil war and no taking back of society, and that really is where we are. The takeover is so complete that the people who would stand a chance will not have a chance because one of their favorite toys will make that impossible. And if it is not the NSA stopping them, they will be stopped by the Mossad after everything they do gets routed through Israel's own intelligence, or whatever intelligence their own phone carrier has set up. We are so hopelessly screwed by the smart phone that there is rationally no way out of it.

              PREDICITION: If the FBI is so corrupt it can just shut down Trump from exposing another watergate, it is GAME OVER. We actually need those people to take this country back, rather than away from us. With the FBI, CIA, and NSA as our enemy, as well as the judicial branch and other agencies like the EPA and DHS, and the police departments unilaterally standing down during riots rather than defending the people they are supposed to protect and serve, the writing is on the wall. It is GAME OVER, Trump WILL be flushed out now, and we are going straight to hell.

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              • balljoint
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1774

                #37
                Why I think it is game over.

                Trump has the entire paper trail proving Obama ordered the Trump tower to be bugged, that it was bugged, and that it was not legal to do it. And Comey, at the FBI in response told the DOJ to do nothing. And from what I can see, nothing will be done. Instead, they will turn this against Trump and use it to kill him off. And his entire staff has turned against him, as everyone in alt media knew would happen if Trump was actually real. Well, HE WAS REAL. And now it is probably over. Trump did not realize the swamp was as deep as the Pacific.

                The only way Trump will live now is if he gets people from completely outside the swamp in his cabinet. He could start with simply taking people out of alt media, regardless of qualifications and dropping them into key positions. Better to have people like that in rather than a pool of traitors. Since that won't be happening, it really is probably over. Trump will now probably be lame ducked, leashed, and flushed by May. Sad ending to what was obviously one of the greatest men to have ever lived.

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                • dirtMAN007
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 5691

                  #38
                  Originally posted by balljoint View Post
                  why i think it is game over.

                  Trump has the entire paper trail proving obama ordered the trump tower to be bugged, that it was bugged, and that it was not legal to do it. And comey, at the fbi in response told the doj to do nothing. And from what i can see, nothing will be done. Instead, they will turn this against trump and use it to kill him off. And his entire staff has turned against him, as everyone in alt media knew would happen if trump was actually real. Well, he was real. And now it is probably over. Trump did not realize the swamp was as deep as the pacific.

                  The only way trump will live now is if he gets people from completely outside the swamp in his cabinet. He could start with simply taking people out of alt media, regardless of qualifications and dropping them into key positions. Better to have people like that in rather than a pool of traitors. Since that won't be happening, it really is probably over. Trump will now probably be lame ducked, leashed, and flushed by may. Sad ending to what was obviously one of the greatest men to have ever lived.
                  p[ease don't forget who they are dealing with................................this man will not lose !!!!!!

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                  • ALLDIRT
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 1214

                    #39
                    Originally posted by dirtMAN007 View Post
                    p[ease don't forget who they are dealing with................................this man will not lose !!!!!!
                    Man is just so smart ! I hope he can pull this off , and it does not drown him
                    in a mess so deep there is no return . But would be so great to see him pull it off .
                    Because the political , liars thief's and cheats , deserve to be exposed as who
                    they really are . Our government has proven lately just how enormous the scale
                    of corruption is in Washington . if he does nothing else he has shown just what is going
                    on in Washington . We are doomed by the exposure of the law and legal agencies there .
                    soooo crooked . Can make it what ever they want to fit how ever they want , with no
                    one to stop them . And then there is the media .

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                    • dirtdobber45
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 7226

                      #40
                      The American people have seen what those idiots have tried pulling before he was elected. Pretty sure they can see thru this smoke and mirrors now
                      If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                      • Clayton_Wetter
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 16671

                        #41
                        Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                        If Trump was communicating with Russia during the elections for their(Trump & Putin) best interest. I would hope there would be an investigation going on. Sounds like Obama(Are any other president Republican or Democrat) was just doing what was expected of him.
                        You have a serious problem with realities and bitter political bias. You don't care about the truth, just Hang the Republicans and anyone else anti-Democrat/Communist!!!

                        It's become totally rediculous. An obsession based on lies.

                        You are right, they are expected to lie to win elections. Proof, the last two elections.
                        Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 03-06-2017, 05:32 PM.

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #42
                          Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                          First I have to laugh so, allow me a moment, lmao!!!

                          That's why I have respect for you because ,you know dam well Obama is a smart guy. Now with that being said, I really don't know what to believe anymore and that my friend is the sadest part about our country and politics right now.
                          Laughing is the last thing to do if you could take the situation serious. Obummer is not as smart as his teleprompter.
                          The DOJ threw out any and all charges against him while in office. He hand picked attorney generals, so he couldn't be touched.

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                          • TS FAN
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 4236

                            #43
                            Obama Administration=Corruption. Aided by the media except for Fox News. They at least made the corruption public. However, I do not believe that Obama believes his administration was corrupt. The reason is simple. Liberals think what ever they think and do is for the betterment of man kind. Problem is, it is actually delusional thinking. All you have to do is listen to someone like Pelosi. She is the post child for this thinking. Sad sad sad. Trump for all his so called faults is a life saver. I hope in the future when more non liberals are in charge they take a few pages out of his "Get it done approach"

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                            • a25rjr
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 3774

                              #44
                              Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                              First I have to laugh so, allow me a moment, lmao!!!

                              That's why I have respect for you because ,you know dam well Obama is a smart guy. Now with that being said, I really don't know what to believe anymore and that my friend is the sadest part about our country and politics right now.
                              Obama/smart....that's an oxymoron!

                              He bet the house Hilary would win the election......and hopefully stop any interrogations into his/her misdealings!

                              Now, a new sheriffs in town and its time to pay the price!
                              Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                              • balljoint
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 1774

                                #45
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                                Best stuff on net right now. Worth checking out. Too lengthy to post in full

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