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Nice idea about nonprofit, but they would quit building hospitals and clinics knowing this.
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That's why we all did. Blacks and Latinos both voted for Trump cause they know the scum sucking can't last forever.Originally posted by Bob Hubbard View PostIt looks to me like Trump is going to let the Obama care crash burn .... Good , I never wanted government health care from day one .... Good .... Stop the free loading on the backs of the working class .... That is why I voted for Trump ...
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It looks to me like Trump is going to let the Obama care crash burn .... Good , I never wanted government health care from day one .... Good .... Stop the free loading on the backs of the working class .... That is why I voted for Trump ...
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The administration is between a rock and a hard place... ACA is gonna crash, its inevitable.... so Trump has to do one of two things, either dump the deal and tell the folks to pack sand and pay for your own stuff...(which would be the fiscally smart thing to do) or try to come up with a plan that will save those who "WANT" insurance making it getable... by not mandating (forcing) everyone to get insurance, many will opt out...CBO says 14 million and they are probably right, but over half of those opting out will be able to afford insurance, but they'd rather have a new car... its human nature... My insurance is about 500 for my wife and myself... quite a lot for a fixed income couple, were fortunate our fixed is higher then many...Originally posted by kidrock View PostI realize it will never fly but, you have to admit it sure would lower cost. I agree 100% the doctors are not the problem and should get paid well and yes we have to have new drugs come to the market but, some of these prices are ridiculously high.
You are right there are no easy answers. They tried with the ACA but, some of it just didn't work and was a diaster but, I think the Republicans are finding out just how hard it is.Last edited by mudslinger47; 03-14-2017, 02:04 AM.
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I realize it will never fly but, you have to admit it sure would lower cost. I agree 100% the doctors are not the problem and should get paid well and yes we have to have new drugs come to the market but, some of these prices are ridiculously high.Originally posted by mudslinger47 View PostACA is not working, it is collapsing under its own weight... and insurance companies are backing out, SC started with five companies, and only one is still there and they're threatening to leave...
I don't see a lot wrong with your thoughts other then mandating you can't have a private hospital... not sure that would fly to well in a free country.. insurance across state lines is a no brainer to me too... if they would start a program where as many of the Mom&Pop stores could go together and shop as a larger company might help... I know its been talked about before but not sure anything was ever done about it... The Doc's aren't the problem, I'm old and on medicare and Plan F, when it gets down to brass tacks, the Dr's ain't getting crap... They cant operate getting 27 dollars for a visit... offices and staff and insurance etc.... lowering the prices of the drugs is a biggy, but there has to be a balance, because of the exurbanite cost of producing a drug for the market.... You take to much away then the new drugs stop.... allowing to buy over international lines would probably result in foreign prices going up exorbitantly too... NO easy answers...
You are right there are no easy answers. They tried with the ACA but, some of it just didn't work and was a diaster but, I think the Republicans are finding out just how hard it is.
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Anytime you agree that it is good thing that a foreign operator can infiltrate and try to change our election makes you one sick puppy. No has said it was wrong talking to the Russian amb. The Amb was being monitored . Maybe Flynn or someone else was part of the conversation being monitored. Intelligence has already said they found no collusion. There still is a investigation going on about some of the aids. May or not be anything there. Trump was supposed to show his proof that Obama had his phones tapped, didn't happen. But, the investigation into Russian hacking has to continue. You may not like the investigation into Russia but I think it is a must. I don't like you Nationalist's. You put politics ahead of our country. #The patriots will survive.Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View PostYou're a patriot??????? That's a good one. hahhahaahahaha And Wikileaks has dumped real information. The truth is good and we were not going to get that from this nations media.AS far as the Putin BS Obummer Hillary and a good number of Democrats have had contact with Russian diplomats and VIP's so why does the media get to focus on Trump and a few others only?Total bias, and if you are patriotic you would denounce the Democrat party. Their goal is to defeat patriotic values and globalize this nation.
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Originally posted by kidrock View PostAnd so far Trump is supporting the plan even had Pence go to Kentucky to try and convience the Govenor that ACA is not working for them.
My plan I would first make all hospitals be non for profit, I would allow people to buy medicine from another country if these drug companies don't lower their cost and make it affordable, I would allow anyone to be able to buy insurance across state lines, I would be pushing more for business to insure their employee's. Like I said not the small mom and pop shops they just can't afford unles the insurance would make a deal with them like they do with big business. I realize they can't give them the same rate as a big company but, at least make it affordable. No I'm not saying mandate either but, at least give the employer an option worth looking at. I would work with each state to find out what would work best for their state. I would get with the Doctors and have them have their say as to what they have found out what went wrong with the ACA and try and correct it.
ACA is not working, it is collapsing under its own weight... and insurance companies are backing out, SC started with five companies, and only one is still there and they're threatening to leave...
I don't see a lot wrong with your thoughts other then mandating you can't have a private hospital... not sure that would fly to well in a free country.. insurance across state lines is a no brainer to me too... if they would start a program where as many of the Mom&Pop stores could go together and shop as a larger company might help... I know its been talked about before but not sure anything was ever done about it... The Doc's aren't the problem, I'm old and on medicare and Plan F, when it gets down to brass tacks, the Dr's ain't getting crap... They cant operate getting 27 dollars for a visit... offices and staff and insurance etc.... lowering the prices of the drugs is a biggy, but there has to be a balance, because of the exurbanite cost of producing a drug for the market.... You take to much away then the new drugs stop.... allowing to buy over international lines would probably result in foreign prices going up exorbitantly too... NO easy answers...
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You're a patriot??????? That's a good one. hahhahaahahaha And Wikileaks has dumped real information. The truth is good and we were not going to get that from this nations media.Originally posted by Hollis View PostThe country is Red. Republicans control everything. For seven years they have been replacing the ACA. But now they fight among themselves? A fact I do enjoy. I believe in our Govt, and our intel. Not perfect but they all believe Russia has been involved in our election. And soon we may find out how much. Any one who praises Putin and Wiki leaks is sick. As a patriot I am offended by those remarks. This goes well beyond partisan politics. Our republic and our Democracy is very important to me. For someone to say they like putin and wiki leaks is fuked up.
AS far as the Putin BS Obummer Hillary and a good number of Democrats have had contact with Russian diplomats and VIP's so why does the media get to focus on Trump and a few others only?Total bias, and if you are patriotic you would denounce the Democrat party. Their goal is to defeat patriotic values and globalize this nation.
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The country is Red. Republicans control everything. For seven years they have been replacing the ACA. But now they fight among themselves? A fact I do enjoy. I believe in our Govt, and our intel. Not perfect but they all believe Russia has been involved in our election. And soon we may find out how much. Any one who praises Putin and Wiki leaks is sick. As a patriot I am offended by those remarks. This goes well beyond partisan politics. Our republic and our Democracy is very important to me. For someone to say they like putin and wiki leaks is fuked up.Originally posted by ALLDIRT View PostI can not see where its fun for you . From your post , your sick deep inside . And apperently the sewage you speak of was already there deep in left field . And you talk of angry , wellI have never seen anything as angry as the left . Man you guys cant stand it can you. How will we ever accomplish anything when your so mad about loosing . Even the b1tch is on TV telling every one to resist . Your side is the ones who are sick . All i can say you are a sore looser . Or you would try . How long can they keep up the attack of Russia and not bit of evidence , none . how do we send them dumb bass terds up to play there dumb a$$ games and we just sit and watch . its a fuk in soap opera .
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Why a manicure ad? Better yet where does this crap come from?
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I can not see where its fun for you . From your post , your sick deep inside . And apperentlyOriginally posted by Hollis View PostLiberal wackos not stopping himHe turned the swamp into sewage pondFar right is jamming him.#fun to watch
the sewage you speak of was already there deep in left field . And you talk of angry , well
I have never seen anything as angry as the left . Man you guys cant stand it can you.
How will we ever accomplish anything when your so mad about loosing . Even the b1tch is
on TV telling every one to resist . Your side is the ones who are sick . All i can say you are
a sore looser . Or you would try . How long can they keep up the attack of Russia and
not one bit of evidence , none . how do we send them dumb bass terds up to play there
dumb a$$ games and we just sit and watch . its a fuk in soap opera .
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And so far Trump is supporting the plan even had Pence go to Kentucky to try and convience the Govenor that ACA is not working for them.Originally posted by mudslinger47 View PostOK, call it what you want, so I ask again, what would your plan be? Trump didn't devise the plan, Paul Ryan did, just so you know...
My plan I would first make all hospitals be non for profit, I would allow people to buy medicine from another country if these drug companies don't lower their cost and make it affordable, I would allow anyone to be able to buy insurance across state lines, I would be pushing more for business to insure their employee's. Like I said not the small mom and pop shops they just can't afford unles the insurance would make a deal with them like they do with big business. I realize they can't give them the same rate as a big company but, at least make it affordable. No I'm not saying mandate either but, at least give the employer an option worth looking at. I would work with each state to find out what would work best for their state. I would get with the Doctors and have them have their say as to what they have found out what went wrong with the ACA and try and correct it.
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Ryan is at partial odds with the President... but the leaker, no I don't think so... It wouldn't benefit Ryan one way or the other so he (being an establishment politician) it isn't likely he'd do anything.Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View PostIsnt Ryan a hold over from the last administration? And before Trump was sworn in didnt Ryan say he wasnt going to work with Trump and then became a big buddy to Trump? Maybe he is trying to sabotage Trump. Maybe hes the leak also.
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Ryan is a snake in the grass and trump will eventually figure it out (if he hasn't already) and run over him with a lawn mower !!!!!Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View PostIsnt Ryan a hold over from the last administration? And before Trump was sworn in didnt Ryan say he wasnt going to work with Trump and then became a big buddy to Trump? Maybe he is trying to sabotage Trump. Maybe hes the leak also.
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Isnt Ryan a hold over from the last administration? And before Trump was sworn in didnt Ryan say he wasnt going to work with Trump and then became a big buddy to Trump? Maybe he is trying to sabotage Trump. Maybe hes the leak also.Originally posted by mudslinger47 View PostOK, call it what you want, so I ask again, what would your plan be? Trump didn't devise the plan, Paul Ryan did, just so you know...
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