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  • a25rjr
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 3774

    #31
    Originally posted by kidrock View Post
    I guess you forgot about Bin ladden
    That was a tough decision? Really?

    If another wusssy Democratic president would have done his job, 911 wouldn't have happened! But as usual, an immoral demoRATs values stopped at the end of his cigar!
    Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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    • gator 49
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 188

      #32
      Originally posted by Crash 4 View Post
      Exactly WRONG again. Obama put it before Congress [the PROPER way] to make a strike against Syria, and the wimpy azz republicans wouldn't even bring it up for a vote. You really need to brush up on your facts, but again if your a republican, facts don't really matter.
      And how proper was it to give 1.5 billion dollars to our biggest enemy? You need to get your facts straight, he notified members of congress both democrats and republicans. Pres. Trump only bomb one air base, he didn't bomb the hole country. I know it's hard for you to understand since you only have a one track mind(liberal).

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      • balljoint
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 1774

        #33
        There are many theories floating around about syria. Some people are saying it was an act of desperation by Trump. Others are saying it was a chess move, where he tested Russia's S-300 and S-400 missile systems. Others think as I do, and that he caved to the neocons. WHATEVER THE SITUATION, HERE IS THE OUTCOME SO FAR:

        Inexplicably, 60 missiles were fired, 1 fell into the ocean, 59 headed to Syria successfully, and 23 made it. That's bad. If Russia's S-300 and S-400 missile systems caused that, IT IS BAD.

        People don't seem to understand that you don't need a 100 percent kill rate on something like a cruise missile to have a weapons system like the S-400 be a success. I'd gauge outrageous success at a 30 percent hit rate on something like a cruise missile. That would be an AMAZING success. If twice that was lost to Russian missile defenses, it represents total doom for the United States. Why would that be? The answer is easy:

        If Russia has a missile system so good it can nail cruise missiles better than half the time, it also means that it will have an extremely high success rate while shooting down aircraft. Aircraft are not expendable single use weapons. To make it worthwhile to have an aircraft it has to fly successfully many many times, at least 100 times. If there is something out there that will, on average, make it possible to fly an aircraft only twice you might as well give up before you even start.

        Obviously we don't know if the super high failure rate was due to Russian missile defenses or if it was due to good Russian jamming, or if it was due to cruise missiles that were crap. I doubt they were crap. But we do now know that Russia is not a helpless victim in waiting.

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        • balljoint
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 1774

          #34
          Drudge has a headline up about the syrian air base being "almost completely destroyed".

          Here is the damage: Six Mig 23 fighters that were being serviced. Some hangar damage. A radar knocked out. A storage area gone.

          No damage to the runway. No airplane that was not under repair destroyed. 60 missiles fired. 23 hit their targets. Not impressive.

          It almost seems like the attack started as it was planned, but then the cruise missiles got jammed.

          Now Russia is going to quickly replace everything lost, and deliver upgrades.

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          • balljoint
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1774

            #35
            Israel won't admit it, but last week Syria shot down an Israeli jet after Iran sent techs to Syria to reset "friend or foe" codes in the Syrian missile systems.

            Iran discovered that it's S-300 missile systems were recognizing enemy aircraft as "friendly" and refusing to engage. So somehow they got hacked, or Israel got the codes to spoof being friendly. After Iran successfully assisted Syria in resetting it's freind or foe codes, (this may not have been limited to the S-300) Syria succeeded in shooting down an Israeli jet.

            SO A FAKE GAS ATTACK WAS STAGED, AS A PRETEXT FOR A CRUISE MISSILE STRIKE ON SYRIA.

            And a 23 / 60 hit rate proves the Tomahawk is OUTDATED OVER PRICED CRAP. Come on now, the Tomahawk is 80's tech that made it's debut in the early 90's. WHAT ON EARTH is it still around for? Obviously GPS jamming is enough to take it out if only 23 hit!

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            • gator 49
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 188

              #36
              Originally posted by balljoint View Post
              Israel won't admit it, but last week Syria shot down an Israeli jet after Iran sent techs to Syria to reset "friend or foe" codes in the Syrian missile systems.

              Iran discovered that it's S-300 missile systems were recognizing enemy aircraft as "friendly" and refusing to engage. So somehow they got hacked, or Israel got the codes to spoof being friendly. After Iran successfully assisted Syria in resetting it's freind or foe codes, (this may not have been limited to the S-300) Syria succeeded in shooting down an Israeli jet.

              SO A FAKE GAS ATTACK WAS STAGED, AS A PRETEXT FOR A CRUISE MISSILE STRIKE ON SYRIA.

              And a 23 / 60 hit rate proves the Tomahawk is OUTDATED OVER PRICED CRAP. Come on now, the Tomahawk is 80's tech that made it's debut in the early 90's. WHAT ON EARTH is it still around for? Obviously GPS jamming is enough to take it out if only 23 hit!
              Gee wisps Ball-Bag I didn't realize you had a TOP SECRET CLASSIFIED CLEARENCE. Tell us more of your worthless misinformed information about the WORLD and what the USA is doing wrong.

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              • balljoint_
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 553

                #37
                Originally posted by gatoy 69 View Post
                Gee wisps Ball-Bag I didn't realize you had a TOP SECRET CLASSIFIED CLEARENCE. Tell us more of your worthless misinformed information about the WORLD and what the USA is doing wrong.
                Neocon warhawks don't like common sense. Just like Iraq had troops at Kuwaiti border (lie) Sadam had WMDs (lie) Assad used chemical weapons against own people (lie). None of this is classified. See post #25 above.

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                • a25rjr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 3774

                  #38
                  Originally posted by balljoint_ View Post
                  Neocon warhawks don't like common sense. Just like Iraq had troops at Kuwaiti border (lie) Sadam had WMDs (lie) Assad used chemical weapons against own people (lie). None of this is classified. See post #25 above.
                  Wrong again Ernie! Even the liberal rag, New York Times, reported in 2015 that 5,000 chemical munitions had been found. The Iraqi officials claimed they had lost track of them. In fact, CIA officials had to use an x-ray machine because they looked exactly like normal munitions.
                  Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                  • balljoint_
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 553

                    #39
                    Classified info lmao

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                    • dirtdobber45
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 7226

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Crash 4 View Post
                      So he was aiming at ISIS the other night and missed? Who's the enemy? I'm sure you don't know, the problem is Trump doesn't either. You can't go off willy-nilly shooting missiles at "bad dudes" just because you have seen a horrible video the night before. There's alot of horrible stuff going on in the world, so who's next in line for a tomahawk missile? Trump doesn't have enough judgement to have his finger on the trigger of a Red Rider BB gun, let alone the most powerful military in the world. The biggest problem is this attack was entirely politically motivated. No strategic value at all, they were flying planes out of the same base the next day. Trump and Putin probably collaborated on this attack also, trying to get Trump's ratings out of the gutter.
                      I was answering your quote. And to this quote Ill say that attack was to show EVERYBODY in this world that there is a new President of America that has BALLS. That we will not be pushed around like we have been for the last eight years. As Ive said before go play your video games and let the adults talk. #UHAVENOCLUE..
                      If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                      • dirtdobber45
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 7226

                        #41
                        Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                        That was a tough decision? Really?If another wusssy Democratic president would have done his job, 911 wouldn't have happened! But as usual, an immoral demoRATs values stopped at the end of his cigar!
                        Exactly^^^^^
                        If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                        • Crash 4
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 671

                          #42
                          Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
                          I was answering your quote. And to this quote Ill say that attack was to show EVERYBODY in this world that there is a new President of America that has BALLS. That we will not be pushed around like we have been for the last eight years. As Ive said before go play your video games and let the adults talk. #UHAVENOCLUE..
                          Balls-maybe. Brains-zero. How many young Americans need to be killed to prove he has BALLS and mostly to boost his approval rating? Yeah I think every country in the world knows we have an idiot in charge.

                          Why don't you go out on your porch and whittle a stick, if you're qualified, and let the educated adults talk.

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                          • balljoint
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 1774

                            #43
                            CONFIRMED: Chemical weapons in Idlib were stashed by terrorists

                            http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/04/0...against-syria/

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                            • balljoint
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1774

                              #44
                              Exactly what message is it sending? That the US will lob 1980s tomahawk missiles with a 38% success rate on "not 100% intelligence".

                              We're better than that.

                              Trump isn't that stupid. Have to see how this plays out.

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                              • dirtdobber45
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 7226

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Crash 4 View Post
                                Balls-maybe. Brains-zero. How many young Americans need to be killed to prove he has BALLS and mostly to boost his approval rating? Yeah I think every country in the world knows we have an idiot in charge.Why don't you go out on your porch and whittle a stick, if you're qualified, and let the educated adults talk.
                                So how many Americans were killed in that bombing?
                                If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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