Kyle Larson Just Keeps On Winning

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  • Barry Seal

    #16
    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
    Larson regards his sweep of the 3 National USAC division (midget, sprint car & Silver Crown) A-main's to be his greatest accomplishment to date. That should make the NASCAR gimmick lovers a little queasy. LOL! Gotta' love it!One thing I know for sure is that Jack Hewitt regards the fact that Larson swept the 3 USAC to be very nearly equal to him winning all 4 in one night. Reason being that Larson had never seen Eldora prior to the 2011 4 Crown Nationals.
    Cirf I agree 100% with you. The only reason I have any interest in NASCAR is Larson. In my eyes the greatest driver that lived is jack Hewitt. Maybe I'm bias lol. I can't wait to see what else Larson does. My dad loved Foyt, went to Foyts big auction in maybe 93 at Indianapolis motor speedway. I will never forget that. My dad told me this is history rite here. All his helmets, the Gilmore cars. There was still motors in their original crates. All his open wheel cars, even the vehicles that pulled them. Still have the program, got it signed from AJ. My dads buddy does the fair races at Springfield and Duqoin. I remember when AJ rented duqoin for his grandson. I was there and rode around with AJ. Great times. Maybe we will meet sometime.

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    • racer x16
      Banned
      • Jul 2017
      • 49

      #17
      looks like he has his work cut for him this weekend starting on the tail i would assume you never know with NASCAR theses days they may give him a 2 lap head start lol

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      • CIRF
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 8122

        #18
        Originally posted by Barry Seal View Post
        Cirf I agree 100% with you. The only reason I have any interest in NASCAR is Larson. In my eyes the greatest driver that lived is jack Hewitt. Maybe I'm bias lol. I can't wait to see what else Larson does. My dad loved Foyt, went to Foyts big auction in maybe 93 at Indianapolis motor speedway. I will never forget that. My dad told me this is history rite here. All his helmets, the Gilmore cars. There was still motors in their original crates. All his open wheel cars, even the vehicles that pulled them. Still have the program, got it signed from AJ. My dads buddy does the fair races at Springfield and Duqoin. I remember when AJ rented duqoin for his grandson. I was there and rode around with AJ. Great times. Maybe we will meet sometime.
        Barry, Jack is right up there with the best of them, that's for sure! I freely admit I'm biased towards Jack. I've known the guy since back in the 1980's and consider him a friend.

        I wasn't able to attend A. J.'s auction but I was at both of Smokey Yunick's auction's in Daytona
        and he had some similar stuff. Smokey had a couple of Chevy 265 c.i. V-8 race engines from 1955 that had never been in a car. Those engines brought a LOT of money. I watched a complete Ford Cammer sell for $35,000.00. I really wish I'd have bought some tools at Smokey's sale. They were selling fairly cheap and it would have been cool to have them as conversation pieces.

        Springfield, Du Quoin and The Indy Mile have lost some of their luster and mystic over the years but there is still a huge amount of history and lore at those places. They are all hallowed grounds of racing even though they're not as popular as they once were.
        Originally posted by racer x16 View Post
        looks like he has his work cut for him this weekend starting on the tail i would assume you never know with NASCAR theses days they may give him a 2 lap head start lol
        I think you're right, racer. NH is not the place you want to fight you're way to the front from the back.

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        • smoothoperator32
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 717

          #19
          Originally posted by CIRF View Post
          It keeps becoming more clear as time passes that Kyle Larson is not only the genuine article, he's by far the best dirt driver in the country and he runs dirt just for fun! We're witnessing the work of one of the great racers of our time.

          Within the 7 day period just past Yung Muny has won a World of Outlaw Sprint Car race driving a car he'd never driven on a track he'd never seen. He won the Cup race at Michigan Sunday afternoon and Monday evening he won an All Star Circuit of Champions race at Orrville, Ohio which was part of the 2017 Ohio Speedweek series. Not a bad weeks' work!

          We all know how tough it is to win a World of Outlaw's sprint car race and a Cup race but the the All Star race was also not push over, by no means. Kasey Kahne was second and Chad Kenemah third and Tim Shaffer was in the top 3 for most of the race.

          Larson says running the open wheel dirt races sharpens his skills for driving the Cup car. Maybe pee wee jr. should spend some of his off time doing some open wheel dirt racing. LOLOL!!!
          I dont think background on racing matters much thats just hype! You either have it or you dont. Look at jimmy johnson he has a motocross back ground

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          • racer x16
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            • Jul 2017
            • 49

            #20
            but you can't blame him on the penalty someone higher up made the bone head move

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            • CIRF
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 8122

              #21
              Originally posted by smoothoperator32 View Post
              I dont think background on racing matters much thats just hype! You either have it or you dont. Look at jimmy johnson he has a motocross back ground
              I'm not sure what your point is. There have been a lot of guys who were great motorcycle racers who transitioned to 4 wheeled competition but I am aware of very few who have successfully transitioned the other way. Joe Leonard, Paul Goldsmith and Billy Moyer are good examples of those who successfully made the jump.

              Actually Jimmie Johnson quit racing motorcycles while still in school. Where he made his bones in racing was when he took up driving off road vehicles of several different persuasions in the Mickey Thompson series, SODA and SCORE International and later racing with the ASA.

              If you believe Kyle Larson would have made it to the top level of NASCAR regardless of what he chose to compete in and his dirt open wheel resume' is all hype then you'll have to take it up with him. LOL! He is adamant in his praise of dirt open wheel racing keeping his skills sharp for his Cup adventures. One thing is for sure, when a driver is as good as Larson is at driving dirt open wheel cars it gets them noticed. Some other dirt divisions, not so much.

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              • racer x16
                Banned
                • Jul 2017
                • 49

                #22
                but what could larson do with a car with no aero package on a dry slick rubbery track with 800 horse power

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                • racer x16
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                  • Jul 2017
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                  #23
                  and why isn't bell in cup car right now with some of lack of experience drivers right holding down points

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                  • racer x16
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 49

                    #24
                    wow larson and bell beats pierce with their top teir truck while Bobby is running a low buck team, how many win has bell had this year

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                    • CIRF
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8122

                      #25
                      Originally posted by racer x16 View Post
                      but what could larson do with a car with no aero package on a dry slick rubbery track with 800 horse power and why isn't bell in cup car right now with some of lack of experience drivers right holding down points
                      Larson would probably do what he has done many times in the past with a 800 hp wingless sprint car on a rubbered up track, and that is WIN. You did know he won all three of the USAC National divisions at Eldora without ever having seen the place before? LOL! I don't think a rubbered up dirt track driving a car with 800 hp would be any particular problem for Larson.

                      Baring injury Christopher Bell will be racing Cup stock cars in the nearer future. Oh, and for good measure Bell won the WoO Kings Royal prelim night sprint race at Eldora last night. He had to pass Donnie Schatz to do it, too.

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                      • Clayton_Wetter
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 16671

                        #26
                        Originally posted by racer x16 View Post
                        but what could larson do with a car with no aero package on a dry slick rubbery track with 800 horse power
                        Win, if they can get the power to the ground better than the others.

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                        • Raceready
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 4737

                          #27
                          Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                          Larson would probably do what he has done many times in the past with a 800 hp wingless sprint car on a rubbered up track, and that is WIN. You did know he won all three of the USAC National divisions at Eldora without ever having seen the place before? LOL! I don't think a rubbered up dirt track driving a car with 800 hp would be any particular problem for Larson. Baring injury Christopher Bell will be racing Cup stock cars in the nearer future. Oh, and for good measure Bell won the WoO Kings Royal prelim night sprint race at Eldora last night. He had to pass Donnie Schatz to do it, too.
                          Once in a while I will pick - up { no pun intended } a truck race on tv when i'm channel surfing. It seems as if every time Bell is either dogging for the lead or ends up winning. He is a hard charger for sure. He most certainly had his work cut out for him to get around Shatz. If they are implying that these young'ins couldn't handle the awkward lethargic late models I think maybe the boys might surprise them !

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                          • CIRF
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8122

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                            Win, if they can get the power to the ground better than the others.
                            Clay, sometimes it goes beyond humorous when seeing how some would indicate that Bell and/or Larson wouldn't be capable, talent-wise, of winning big while driving a dirt late model racing against the best in the division. It is clearly evident that if a drivers' aspirations are to drive racecars in a setting that provides the opportunity to make the big bucks and become a household name excelling in dirt late models won't get it done. Or at least is hasn't yet.
                            Originally posted by Raceready View Post
                            Once in a while I will pick - up { no pun intended } a truck race on tv when i'm channel surfing. It seems as if every time Bell is either dogging for the lead or ends up winning. He is a hard charger for sure. He most certainly had his work cut out for him to get around Shatz. If they are implying that these young'ins couldn't handle the awkward lethargic late models I think maybe the boys might surprise them !
                            Bell often times is in the mix at the front of the field when it comes to the trucks.

                            On his performance at The Kings Royal, it bears saying that it isn't like Bell hasn't spent some time in a full house 410 winged sprint car but I'm confident with the assumption that he drives them less than a dozen times a year. To pass and beat a legend like Schatz in the Kings Royal prelim night at a fast and nasty place like Eldora, then turn around and start 20th in the Kings Royal and get to the eventual winner's (again, Schatz's) tail bar is an amazing feat.

                            There is virtually no doubt that these guys could get the job done in a big way driving most anything on dirt, DLM's included.

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                            • TS FAN
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4236

                              #29
                              Bell and Larson are the best young drivers in the country. No matter what they drive. Just like the often hated Tony Stewart was when he was young.

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                              • CIRF
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8122

                                #30
                                Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                                Bell and Larson are the best young drivers in the country. No matter what they drive. Just like the often hated Tony Stewart was when he was young.
                                Any abhorrence directed at Stewart originated with his own unpalatable, often unwise and unsafe behavior and actions.

                                I'm sorry to be the one to break the news to you Power14 but the facts are Larson holds a distinct edge on Stewart in regards to their dirt racing resume'. Stewart was never able to win in an open wheel car on a 1 mile dirt track. The only win Stewart has on a 1 mile dirt track was while driving an ARCA stock car that had more monetary and human resources behind it than probably all the other cars competing in that race combined. He also had to deliberately wreck Frank Kimmel to finally get the job done. I know this because I was there at Du Quoin that day and listened to Stewart cheerfully boast on the radio as to how proud he was of himself that he put Kimmel in the wall during a late race restart. Oh, and just for the record, this occurred during Stewart's 3rd attempt to beat Kimmel at Duquoin.

                                On the other hand, Kyle Larson drove to a decisive USAC Silver Crown victory on The Magic Mile at Du Quoin in 2011 and just 3 weeks prior to the victory at Du Quoin Larson won the Belleville Midget Nationals. Keep in mind that Kyle had never seen the scary fast Belleville High Banks prior to winning there. Stewart never won at Belleville in a midget, or anything else, for that matter.

                                On a side note, Larson has also actually won the Rolex 24, something Stewart never managed to do.

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