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  • Hollis
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 689

    #31
    Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
    How did Odummer get us out of the 'mess'? He made it a whole lot WORSE. And quoting McConnell... REALLY? Unemployment is at a 17 year low now. If youll look under Trumps scorecard thread at my last post youll see what Trump has done in a years time.
    My biggest problem with ARA was that no one went to jail. If you can't admit that we were in trouble when Obama took over that is ok, most of America knows better.

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    • ss12
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 3731

      #32
      Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
      How did Odummer get us out of the 'mess'? He made it a whole lot WORSE. And quoting McConnell... REALLY? Unemployment is at a 17 year low now. If youll look under Trumps scorecard thread at my last post youll see what Trump has done in a years time.
      When Obama started his presidency the country was loosing 850,000 a month. Obama policies and some executive orders has turned those number around. Unemployment is still going down thanks to Obama. Trump likes to bring it up like it was something he is responsible for. If you go back and look at the numbers for the last 32 years, you will see that the republican policies actually loses jobs while the democrats policies creates jobs. As far as executive order that Obama signed in his first 200 days was 22. Trump has signed 42 executive orders in his first 200 days.
      President Donald Trump used to criticize former President Barack Obama for his heavy use of executive power, but has embraced it since taking office.
      Last edited by ss12; 12-25-2017, 08:50 AM.
      Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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      • STRONGERTHANDIRT
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 753

        #33
        You are a fool. Most of the ones Trump has signed are ones undoing the damage Obama did. IF you have a job and get a tax cut, you can always send the money back to the treasury, I'm sure they will be happy to take your money. Your ignorance is only overcome by your stupidity!

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        • ss12
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3731

          #34
          Originally posted by STRONGERTHANDIRT View Post
          You are a fool. Most of the ones Trump has signed are ones undoing the damage Obama did. IF you have a job and get a tax cut, you can always send the money back to the treasury, I'm sure they will be happy to take your money. Your ignorance is only overcome by your stupidity!

          Oh I can say the same thing. All of the executive orders Obama signed in his 1st 200 days in office were to undo the damaged created by Bush 43. Bush(43) policies were causing us to 850,000 jobs a month. Thanks to Obama for putting our country back on track. As of today 45 is benefiting from the executive orders that Obama had to sign into law to help unemployment in this country. I do appreciate the income tax decrease but I'm having trouble about the increase of the national debt this law will create. With all of the big corporations having more money than what they know what to do with. I'm not sure this is the best time to give them even more money. I would think a conservative would be saying lets pay down the nation's debt instead of giving them even more money via a tax break. I would of prefer that they had to do some thing in order to get a tax decrease. Give your employees good health insurance and we will give you a 5% decrease on your taxes. Decrease your imports of your goods being made in other countries and increase your productions in the USA and we will give another 5% decrease in your taxes.
          Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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          • dirtdobber45
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 7226

            #35
            The loss of jobs started when Clinton signed NAFTA... THATS A FACT!!! And where are you getting your facts that Odummer had anything to do with getting jobs back into this country this year? Plus companies staying or coming back to this country. Unemployment AND welfare are DOWN best in 17 years.
            If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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            • dirtdobber45
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 7226

              #36
              Originally posted by Hollis View Post
              The fact that that 2-3 former Presidents occasionally speak out is very telling of their concern about the direction 45 is taking this country. They are not alone. 45 has neither principals or values. 45,Pence and sessions are quickly moving our country to a totalitarian form of Govt. Not exactly something a patriot would not do. Sucking up to our enemies making enemies of our global friends. A habitual liar and a admitted pervert. An embarrassment to the office.
              Originally posted by Hollis View Post
              My biggest problem with ARA was that no one went to jail. If you can't admit that we were in trouble when Obama took over that is ok, most of America knows better.
              I can admit it started when NAFTA was signed. And why do you think that ex-presidents are coming out against Trump? Hes not like them. Hes not starting wars to steal oil and natural gas from other countries. These wars we are in now were suppose to be getting the ones that were behind 9/11. All those people are dead and gone now. And Trump rids us of the deep state we will be getting out of the Middle East. Gar-run-teed!!!!
              If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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              • balljoint
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1774

                #37
                Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
                The loss of jobs started when Clinton signed NAFTA... THATS A FACT!!! And where are you getting your facts that Odummer had anything to do with getting jobs back into this country this year? Plus companies staying or coming back to this country. Unemployment AND welfare are DOWN best in 17 years.
                Nafta was started in the 70s by Winthrop Rockefeller ....legislation was started by GHWB...already on clintons desk when he took office..

                Some think both Clintons are rockefellers.. hence their power and non intimate relationship..

                Last edited by balljoint; 12-26-2017, 11:12 AM.

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                • ss12
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3731

                  #38
                  Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
                  The loss of jobs started when Clinton signed NAFTA... THATS A FACT!!! And where are you getting your facts that Odummer had anything to do with getting jobs back into this country this year? Plus companies staying or coming back to this country. Unemployment AND welfare are DOWN best in 17 years.
                  You can blame Clinton all you want but the facts are more republicans voted for NAFTA than democrats. As I posted before republicans policies have done more to damage American's jobs.



                  Last edited by ss12; 12-25-2017, 06:24 PM.
                  Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hollis View Post
                    The fact that that 2-3 former Presidents occasionally speak out is very telling of their concern about the direction 45 is taking this country. They are not alone. 45 has neither principals or values. 45,Pence and sessions are quickly moving our country to a totalitarian form of Govt. Not exactly something a patriot would not do. Sucking up to our enemies making enemies of our global friends. A habitual liar and a admitted pervert. An embarrassment to the office.
                    You are just totally beyond belief. Sing you a gulliby!!!!

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                      You can blame Clinton all you want but the facts are more republicans voted for NAFTA than democrats. As I posted before republicans policies have done more to damage American's jobs.



                      https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s395
                      Bend over, reinsert head!!!

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                      • ss12
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3731

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                        Bend over, reinsert head!!!
                        I see you still can not handle facts!!
                        Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #42
                          You don't even know the facts. Doesn't a commie revolutionary like this not disturb you to the bone? If not, you just don't know what's going on.

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                          • Clayton_Wetter
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 16671

                            #43
                            Time to admit you stand with the coup movement, and quit attacking those that are trying to save the nation. Like you are pretending to stand for this nation as founded.

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                            • balljoint
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1774

                              #44
                              Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                              You can blame Clinton all you want but the facts are more republicans voted for NAFTA than democrats. As I posted before republicans policies have done more to damage American's jobs.



                              https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s395
                              Blame everyone.. both parties bad..LBJ and GHWB

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                              • dirtdobber45
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 7226

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                                You can blame Clinton all you want but the facts are more republicans voted for NAFTA than democrats. As I posted before republicans policies have done more to damage American's jobs.https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/h575https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s395
                                I blame the Establishment. The Establishment doesnt have a party. Unless its a 'pizza' party
                                If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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