AP fact checks on The Lying Conman Last week

[kidrock]

ss , does not an investigation possibly lead to a trial???? and the several repub witnesses that were hand picked by the dems were picked only because they fit the dems narrative , why not except all there witnesses ????if trump done something wrong just as with biden , lets get it all out into the open , not just what the dems select , but we both know that will never happen because the dems refuse to even remotely mention biden,s name in the same sentence as ukraine.......

I agree lets hear it all including the actual phone call minus classified information. The Trump administration turning over all documents, Have Rick Perry, John Bolton, Mick Mulvaney, Pompeo, Hunter Biden, testify. Please let's see it all so, we can really see what really happened and not this spin from both sides.

[kidrock]

Impeaching a President because he held up aid to a corrupt Country. It doesn't get any funnier than this. Dems that are for impeachment are nothing but a dumb, deranged, ignorant souls.. There is no debate on this. This is why I say that in reality only about 35% of the Country wants him impeached and those are the moron base. I am sure there is a higher percentage that hate him, but to bow down to the Dem phony impeachment scam is absolutely for morons only.

Well if you say it like that but, that's not what he did. He held up money to get a foreign leader to start an investigation into a political candidate for President. If your ok with that just remember when the day comes and the Democratic President does something like this because, you know they will. You will be sticking up for a Democrat and saying I see nothing wrong with what he did. That's going to kill you man to have to stick up for a Democrat isn't it lol

[Barbecueboy]

So you know exactly what he did and why? Well hell, why dont you just call somebody up there in the house and tell them so they can quit wasting money and time trying to figure it out?

Can't believe you haven't come forward with this information sooner.

[kidrock]

So you know exactly what he did and why? Well hell, why dont you just call somebody up there in the house and tell them so they can quit wasting money and time trying to figure it out?

Can't believe you haven't come forward with this information sooner.

It's just my opinion from the mouths of the witnesses that's all we have to go on. Your opinion might differ from mine and guess what that's ok. I'm all for everyone testifying and all documents being turned over and let the American people judge for themselves. How about you?

[ss12]

ss , does not an investigation possibly lead to a trial???? and the several repub witnesses that were hand picked by the dems were picked only because they fit the dems narrative , why not except all there witnesses ????if trump done something wrong just as with biden , lets get it all out into the open , not just what the dems select , but we both know that will never happen because the dems refuse to even remotely mention biden,s name in the same sentence as ukraine.......

1st thing The republican were allowed to call their witnesses in the public hearings - Volker and Morrison. That who the republicans choose to call. This whole case is about the phone call and what lead up to the bribe. The Biden's are not a witness to this phone call. If the Biden's did something illegal then that would be another trial. You want to a the whistleblower testify? He is protected by the federal law. The whistleblower's Testimony is now irrelevant. The Conman released the phone call transcript admitting what the whistleblower concerns were. I agree lets get in out in the open and lets see how fast Trump goes down. As Kids said in post 16 let everybody that has information testify. The Democrats are willing to let Trump testify in the next phase of the impeachment. What did the conman do? He decline his due process. Now he still wants to get on TV and say it a hoax.

[ss12]

I agree lets hear it all including the actual phone call minus classified information. The Trump administration turning over all documents, Have Rick Perry, John Bolton, Mick Mulvaney, Pompeo, Hunter Biden, testify. Please let's see it all so, we can really see what really happened and not this spin from both sides.

Good post Kid !

[fastford]

so the repubs were allowed to call who ever they wanted ? right? , and that is what we want to know about biden as well , did biden commit a bride ? you know , DRAIN THE SWAMP , or have you forgot ? and by the way what did the whistle blower really blow ? i will tell you , He showed that the president was trying to rid Ukraine of corruption involved with the US , to me that is all the whistle blower has done , so why dont you join me and kidrock and lets see IT ALL ?????

[Stefan2k4]

THE FACTS: Trump was not deprived of constitutional rights during the House Intelligence Committee hearings because the committee was conducting an investigation, not a trial.

This is not a "fact". Here are examples of fact.

1+1=2

E = mc2

2H2 + O2 ----> 2H2O

These are the type of things we call facts. The are facts because they are proven to be true, they are repeatable, and there is NO interpretation involve. What you posted above is not a fact. It's an opinion. It's entirely open to interpretation and therefore subjective. From this flows all the remainder of the text and it is therefore all subjective as well. But let's continue anyway.

Trump is also incorrect that the Intelligence Committee hearings only brought forward witnesses hand-picked by the Democrats. Several were invited at the request of Republicans on the committee.

First "private" closed door hearing were held in which "witnesses" testified. Only some of those witnesses were presented in the public hearings. That could be considered "hand picked". Again, this is a matter of interpretation and subjective.

More broadly, each stage of the impeachment inquiry has been guided by majority vote or by long-established institutional practices of Congress as interpreted by the Democratic majority

"long established institutional practices" ? We've only 3 such instances in our entire history and in one of those cases it ended before the actual impeachment because Nixon resigned. Furthermore

as interpreted by the Democratic majority elected by the voters.

According to this
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/

According to this Adam Schiff was re-elected by 210,883 voters in the last election. Donald Trump was elected President of the United States by over 63 million voters! The same is true for all members of the House because the only people who vote to elect them are the people in their own little teeny tiny congressional district. All of these democratic house members who are trying to unseat our President were only elected by a couple hundred thousand voters at most. Yet they are trying to remove a President that over 63 Million Americans voted to have as their President. And this is a FACT. So you have one fact in your argument, but I had to provide you the numbers. Also notice that word "interpreted'.

It’s also unfolding as outlined in the Constitution, which gives the House the sole power to impeach and the Senate the sole power to remove a president from office.

The Constitution doesn't specify exactly how these hearing should be conducted. It's true that it gives the House the power to impeach, but it also says "high crimes and misdemeanors" and NOT political vendettas. Anyway, just as the House has the ability to abuse their power and conduct lopsided hearings, the senate will be able to decide how they conduct the actual impeachment trial. And I think, it will be quite different and some of those democrats will not like the way this whole thing unfolds.

[kidrock]

so the repubs were allowed to call who ever they wanted ? right? , and that is what we want to know about biden as well , did biden commit a bride ? you know , DRAIN THE SWAMP , or have you forgot ? and by the way what did the whistle blower really blow ? i will tell you , He showed that the president was trying to rid Ukraine of corruption involved with the US , to me that is all the whistle blower has done , so why dont you join me and kidrock and lets see IT ALL ?????

I agree lets see it all.

you see it that way and I see it another way, that's why it's more of a reason to see it all.

I want everyone to testify Biden's and all. If you want to fight corruption lets start right here in this country first before we give 2 ----- about another country. If we can't stop corruption here how in the heck are we going to stop it somewhere else.

[ss12]

When you go to trial you can only bring up information that pertains to the case. The impeachment is about the allege bribe. Any information What the Biden's have been accused of or anything else can not be brought up. I was involved with case on a drug deal. We couldn't bring up in court that offender was involved in another pending drug case or he had prior convictions of drugs.

What this does shows is how low republicans will go to win an election. Remember Clinton's Benghazi thing Kevin McCarthy admitted the whole investigation was just a deploy to bring down Clintons poll numbers.

Kevin McCarthy
"And let me give you one example. Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she's un-trustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen."

I'm all in letting the people that are involved and have knowledge of the allege bribe to testify. Adam Schiff, The Biden's have nothing to do with the allege bribe.

[Barbecueboy]

Stayed at a holiday inn express last night.......^^^^^^^^^^^

Biden is intertwined in the case being brought.....your analogy with the example of the drug case you participated in isnt even remotely the same.....of course they can't use another case to bring judgement and prejudice in the case they are trying.

I'm surprised you didn't know that, or was it that you thought someone else wouldn't?

You look dumb trying to act smart sometimes.

[ss12]

Attorney General Barr is going to dispute Inspector general finding about FBI's Russia investigation. Image that.

[dirtMAN007]

Attorney General Barr is going to dispute Inspector general finding about FBI's Russia investigation. Image that.

The IG is a SWAMP DWELLER so why wouldn’t he ?

[ss12]

Stayed at a holiday inn express last night.......^^^^^^^^^^^

Biden is intertwined in the case being brought.....your analogy with the example of the drug case you participated in isnt even remotely the same.....of course they can't use another case to bring judgement and prejudice in the case they are trying.

I'm surprised you didn't know that, or was it that you thought someone else wouldn't?

You look dumb trying to act smart sometimes.

Please tell me what Biden knows about the Allege Bribe? This is all the case is about. Remember the Conman just wanted an investigation mention. He didn't care with it was factual or not. Just because the conman brought up Biden during the phone call does mean he's intertwined in the investigation. I'm sure Biden didn't know any of this was going on behind the scenes. Again you can only bring up information that pertains to the case.

[Barbecueboy]

Please tell me what Biden knows about the Allege Bribe? This is all the case is about. Remember the Conman just wanted an investigation mention. He didn't care with it was factual or not. Just because conman brought up Biden during the phone call does mean he Intertwined in the investigation. I'm sure Biden didn't know any of this was going on behind the scenes. Again you can only bring up information that pertains to the case.

Nice fraudian slip again......and you're right, it sure does.

Thanks for validating.....even though you didn't realize it.

And Biden.......pssssssssst.......he was the scene.