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  • fastford
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4059

    #76
    Originally posted by lurker View Post
    What needed or needs tweaking regarding the 2nd amendment?
    just using it as an example , some 2nd amendment supporters feel there is no need for assault rifles in the general public's hands , this will probably eventually happen or get tweaked , but no need to completely get ride of the 2nd , as for the electoral college , you either keep it or get ride of it and except that 2 or 3 cities will run the whole country.....JMO....

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    • lurker
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 3186

      #77
      Originally posted by fastford View Post
      just using it as an example , some 2nd amendment supporters feel there is no need for assault rifles in the general public's hands ----
      The 2nd amendment “supporters” definition above, and my 2nd amendment “supporters” definition, are polar opposite.

      The 2nd amendment “supporters” definition above would be what I call “gun grabbers” of those “scary black rifles, and those “scary high capacity magazines”, just for starters, that Liberal Democrats what to ban completely.

      My personal 2nd amendment “supporters” definition, is exactly opposite of that. That coming from my Libertarian point of view - "Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing freedom of choice, voluntary association and individual judgement. Libertarians share a skepticism of authority and state power, but they diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing economic and political systems."

      Libertarian Gun Ownership - https://www.lp.org/issues/gun-ownership/

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      • lurker
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 3186

        #78
        Furthering -

        Originally posted by fastford View Post
        just using it as an example , some 2nd amendment supporters feel there is no need for assault rifles in the general public's hands ----
        If anyone is keeping an eye on this topic; I think Tuesday in Virginia might be a preview of things to come with Governor, Northam and his cronies at work to, in short in my opinion, ban the 2nd amendment in some way. Many States are trying to implement same such anti-gun owner laws and sanctuary cities.

        North Carolina Sheriff’s Deputy DESTROYS anti-2A arguments at 2nd Amendment sanctuary meeting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tikAt3fY8cs

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        • fastford
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4059

          #79
          lurker , i was stating an opinion as to where i thought the 2nd was headed , i did not say it was my personal opinion , i cant see where your version of the 2nd is polar opposite of what i stated , gun grabbers are in support of taking all guns , which i am against defiantly , you sound like you are for no regulation at all with your views , and i understand , most libertarians i have met want it all their way or nothing , maybe thats where the " polar opposite " came from , but our whole system in this country is based on compromise , as with the 2nd or abortion or what ever . no one is ever gone get every thing they want , but you negotiate to reach a final result every one can live with....

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          • Barbecueboy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 18116

            #80
            The dems and liberals can't live with trump.........except for almost 5 more years.

            Idiots.
            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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            • lurker
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 3186

              #81
              Originally posted by fastford View Post
              lurker , i was stating an opinion as to where i thought the 2nd was headed , i did not say it was my personal opinion
              Gotcha, I knew that. I should have worded it this way. Sorry.
              Pro-gun, Pro-GOA, Pro-NRA would be 2nd amendment supporters.
              Anti-gun, Anti-GOA, Anti-NRA would be 2nd amendment non-supporters.

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              • TS FAN
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 4236

                #82
                Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                I didn't say anything about abolishing the electoral collage. I was just commenting on democracy. I wasn't looking for any answers or for a different outcome. And by the way I didn't vote for Clinton.
                Great spinning garbage on your part there SS12, supporting the sham impeachment. BTW you should vote for LIZ or Bernie. Their tax plans send the Country right into depression along with the Global economy. I guess you just are not to bright when it comes down to it. By not voting for Trump, you automatically cast a vote to the communist/marxist party

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                • STRONGERTHANDIRT
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 753

                  #83
                  At least he won't have to be sent to be "re-educated' to Bernie's way of thinking.

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                  • ZERO25
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 5240

                    #84
                    Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                    Great spinning garbage on your part there SS12, supporting the sham impeachment. BTW you should vote for LIZ or Bernie. Their tax plans send the Country right into depression along with the Global economy. I guess you just are not to bright when it comes down to it. By not voting for Trump, you automatically cast a vote to the communist/marxist party
                    We already know SS will be voting for the gay/transgender party!

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                    • Clayton_Wetters
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2019
                      • 1057

                      #85
                      When a government has the power to reeducate people then we are done for. They are actually doing such a thing right now by controlling the education system for the most part and the media.
                      I'm a copycat wetter... 😎

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