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  • CIRF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #1

    Dale Earnhardt Jr.

    I must admit to being way off base on this one. Many of us including myself were still highly invested and interested in NASCAR At the time Earnhardt Jr. was beginning to make his way up the ladder. I pretty much dismissed him as being just another silver spooner. I do believe he had a little help from NASCAR from time to time but not nearly to the degree his old man was taken care of.

    Didn't really take much stock in Earnhardt Jr.'s off track style and demeanor. After a while I began to realize DEJ was a very nice and unassuming young man with manners and class which are virtues that are becoming increasingly rare. I believe this came from his time in military school and it has paid huge dividends for him. He also was a better than average driver especially on the RP tracks.

    During this period of quarantine I would suggest watching as many of DEJ's television shows as you can find. They are of very high quality. DEJ and his sidekick do a great job with the guest interview's that make up these shows. The best ones I've seen to date are Kenny Schrader, Ricky Rudd and John Force. I was always a big Ricky Rudd fan and he pretty much confirms what many of us knew for a long time that NASCAR was deeply in the pocket of arnhead and just how much of a backstabber ol' arnhead could be. Ricky was around from the beginning and saw it all.

    Check 'em out, they are all very good and worth an hour of your time whether you are or aren't a NASCAR fan.
  • Raceready
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 4737

    #2
    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
    I must admit to being way off base on this one. Many of us including myself were still highly invested and interested in NASCAR At the time Earnhardt Jr. was beginning to make his way up the ladder. I pretty much dismissed him as being just another silver spooner. I do believe he had a little help from NASCAR from time to time but not nearly to the degree his old man was taken care of. Didn't really take much stock in Earnhardt Jr.'s off track style and demeanor. After a while I began to realize DEJ was a very nice and unassuming young man with manners and class which are virtues that are becoming increasingly rare. I believe this came from his time in military school and it has paid huge dividends for him. He also was a better than average driver especially on the RP tracks. During this period of quarantine I would suggest watching as many of DEJ's television shows as you can find. They are of very high quality. DEJ and his sidekick do a great job with the guest interview's that make up these shows. The best ones I've seen to date are Kenny Schrader, Ricky Rudd and John Force. I was always a big Ricky Rudd fan and he pretty much confirms what many of us knew for a long time that NASCAR was deeply in the pocket of arnhead and just how much of a backstabber ol' arnhead could be. Ricky was around from the beginning and saw it all. Check 'em out, they are all very good and worth an hour of your time whether you are or aren't a NASCAR fan.
    Dale Earnhardt Jr. is picked to be a shoe in for the 2021 HOF Modern Era class. My other 2 choices are of course Rickey Rudd. The third induction in that class would be Harry Gant. In the Pioneer class I would pick Herschel McGriff and for the other one it would either be Suitcase Jake Elder or Red Farmer. Only 1 is allowed in the Landmark category and there clearly can only be one choice and that can only be Janet Guthrie. Hard to believe Mike Helton is in there, come on really now ! ! ! !
    Last edited by Raceready; 04-12-2020, 04:04 AM.

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    • CIRF
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 8122

      #3
      Originally posted by Raceready View Post
      Dale Earnhardt Jr. is picked to be a shoe in for the 2021 HOF Modern Era class. My other 2 choices are of course Rickey Rudd. The third induction in that class would be Harry Gant. In the Pioneer class I would pick Herschel McGriff and for the other one it would either be Suitcase Jake Elder or Red Farmer. Only 1 is allowed in the Landmark category and there clearly can only be one choice and that can only be Janet Guthrie. Hard to believe Mike Helton is in there, come on really now ! ! ! !
      In regards to the NASCAR HoF the fact that Smokey Yunick is not in the HoF clearly indicates that whoever is overseeing the system and the process of determining who's in and who isn't and who doesn't even get nominated for a vote has virtually no credibility. Personally, I lost any interest, confidence in the credibility or respect for this turd they refer to as the NASCAR HoF when the best there ever was or maybe ever will be was not inducted within the first group. That man being one David Gene Pearson. Instead they put a guy and the team he drove for in with the first group that made a career of having Billy France Jr. and NASCAR deeply in his pocket.


      There is a whole lot of people with questionable credentials that are in, and going to be in, the NASCAR HoF. I figure if they're putting everyone in and the whole process has no credibility then why not DEJ and Helton?

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      • Morgs153
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2020
        • 860

        #4
        HOF

        Agreed, Smokey Yunick should be there.

        I also like Rudd as he could win every year no matter who he drove for, including himself as an independent. The thing I liked about Rudd was if you did him wrong, you were getting your payback - very soon. Ricky Rudd was not one for the idle threat and blowhardiness that some drivers exhibit. Ricky fendered you back and stuffed you quickly if you deserved it. It made for some great race watching.

        McGriff was one of the best from the west for a long time. Great racer.

        Janet Guthrie was a real pioneer. Folks don't realize how much she overcame when she tried her hand in Cup racing. She was a talented driver with real technical smarts. The old guard, including Petty, really treated her like garbage. It really was a different era and she made in roads to change that. That's worth something. I actually seen her drive a late model at State Park Speedway in Wausau. WI when she came as a guest driver. They stuck her in some backmarker's car (rent racer) that really wasn't all that competitive.
        Political correctness,...is the inability to speak the truth about the obvious.

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        • Bob Hubbard
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 1048

          #5
          I recall looking at dale jr's overall standings a long time ago … He was good at the super speedways …. Im sure hes a Nice guy in person …. Shoulda coulda been much better choices for the equipment he was giving ….
          Retired - Snowbird ... Living the Dream

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          • Raceready
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 4737

            #6
            Originally posted by Morgs153 View Post
            HOF Agreed, Smokey Yunick should be there. I also like Rudd as he could win every year no matter who he drove for, including himself as an independent. The thing I liked about Rudd was if you did him wrong, you were getting your payback - very soon. Ricky Rudd was not one for the idle threat and blowhardiness that some drivers exhibit. Ricky fendered you back and stuffed you quickly if you deserved it. It made for some great race watching. McGriff was one of the best from the west for a long time. Great racer. Janet Guthrie was a real pioneer. Folks don't realize how much she overcame when she tried her hand in Cup racing. She was a talented driver with real technical smarts. The old guard, including Petty, really treated her like garbage. It really was a different era and she made in roads to change that. That's worth something. I actually seen her drive a late model at State Park Speedway in Wausau. WI when she came as a guest driver. They stuck her in some backmarker's car (rent racer) that really wasn't all that competitive.
            10-4 on Ricky Rudd. He should have been the one called " ONE TOUGH CUSTOMER " after he used used duct tape to tape his swollen eyes open so that he wouldn't miss a race. I could guarantee that if Janet Guthrie had ever the equipment that Danica had she would've had some wins under her belt !!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • CIRF
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 8122

              #7
              I've posted my admiration for Ricky Rudd many times. He wasn't intimidated by or afraid of anyone, probably least of all arnhead. Ricky found out the hard way how much of a backstabber arnhead was and Richard Childress was no better. Rudd explains the whole reason for the deep animosity he had for arnhead and Childress. He was clearly justified in his antipathy for arnhead and Childress. I applaud Ricky for having the stones to state the truth about why he had no use for anyone connected with the 3 car team.

              In this clip of a recent interview with Dale Earnhardt Jr. he pulls no punches explaining the whole deal, right to the face of DEJ. He also sights yet another clear example as to just how deeply arnhead and Childress had Billy France Jr. and NASCAR in their pocket. Ricky said point blank to DEJ that if arnhead knew you were driving a car that was capable of beating him he'd take you out early so it didn't look quite as blatant as what he was allowed to get away with at Bristol in August of 1999. It's something I've been saying for decades.

              Here's the video of the Earnhardt Jr. interview. This portion deals with the backstabbing and sh!tty tactics NASCAR and Billy France Jr. allowed arnhead to get away with.

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              • CIRF
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 8122

                #8
                I wasn't aware until recently of how badly Janet Guthrie was treated during her racing career. It was very sh!tty what she was forced to put up with.

                I could see some of Janet Guthrie's guts and determination in Sarah Fisher. I would agree that had Janet or Sarah either one driven the level of quality of the equipment Danica drove they both would have dramatically out performed Danica. That is not to say Danica Patrick was totally without talent, it's just that Janet and Sarah had a bit more skill and determination.

                Janet Guthrie belongs in whatever HoF she ends up in but she doesn't deserve to go into the NASCAR HoF before Smokey. But to be fair, that can be said about many who are already in the NASCAR HoF.

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                • ZERO25
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 5240

                  #9
                  Ive never been a Jr fan, always thought he got to where he is because of his name. he had the best equipment at Hendricks and did very little with it! However, watching his show, I have found a new respect for him and literally enjoy watching!

                  As for the hof, glad to see my dads mentor, Ray Fox, has been inducted. I have a lot of fond memories of my childhood being around him at the shop and various Cup tracks(his shop is the reason I was born in Daytona, lol).. It is literally a crying shame, Smokey, isn't in there. Those two had quite a battle in Daytona for building some of Nascars most inventive cars!

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                  • kidrock
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 16433

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                    I've posted my admiration for Ricky Rudd many times. He wasn't intimidated by or afraid of anyone, probably least of all arnhead. Ricky found out the hard way how much of a backstabber arnhead was and Richard Childress was no better. Rudd explains the whole reason for the deep animosity he had for arnhead and Childress. He was clearly justified in his antipathy for arnhead and Childress. I applaud Ricky for having the stones to state the truth about why he had no use for anyone connected with the 3 car team.

                    In this clip of a recent interview with Dale Earnhardt Jr. he pulls no punches explaining the whole deal, right to the face of DEJ. He also sights yet another clear example as to just how deeply arnhead and Childress had Billy France Jr. and NASCAR in their pocket. Ricky said point blank to DEJ that if arnhead knew you were driving a car that was capable of beating him he'd take you out early so it didn't look quite as blatant as what he was allowed to get away with at Bristol in August of 1999. It's something I've been saying for decades.

                    Here's the video of the Earnhardt Jr. interview. This portion deals with the backstabbing and sh!tty tactics NASCAR and Billy France Jr. allowed arnhead to get away with.

                    Don't mess with the Rooster!!

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                    • CIRF
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8122

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                      Ive never been a Jr fan, always thought he got to where he is because of his name. he had the best equipment at Hendricks and did very little with it! However, watching his show, I have found a new respect for him and literally enjoy watching!

                      As for the hof, glad to see my dads mentor, Ray Fox, has been inducted. I have a lot of fond memories of my childhood being around him at the shop and various Cup tracks(his shop is the reason I was born in Daytona, lol).. It is literally a crying shame, Smokey, isn't in there. Those two had quite a battle in Daytona for building some of Nascars most inventive cars!
                      Zero, we hung out and shot the bull with Ray Fox at a Living Legends of Auto Racing get together at the flea market just west of I 95 in Daytona. It was during Speedweeks back in the early 1990's. Ray was a hoot to hang out with. I remember Rebel Mundy was there, as well. Ray said he worked for Smokey for a short time back in the early days.

                      Zero, you and I both know why Smokey isn't in the HoF. I don't remember ever reading or hearing Smoke say anything about the France family and NASCAR that didn't contain at least a grain or two of truth. If half of what Smoke said about Bill France Sr. was true, and I believe it was, Big Bill was a con man and a huckster who'd sell his mother's soul for a scotch and water! LOL!

                      Back to DEJ, I was surprised that Ricky Rudd said what he said right in front of DEJ during the interview. Ricky laid it right on the line as he saw it and DEJ didn't dispute or seem offended by any of it.

                      I believe DEJ has a bright future in media.

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                      • Rajflyboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2020
                        • 5907

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                        In regards to the NASCAR HoF the fact that Smokey Yunick is not in the HoF clearly indicates that whoever is overseeing the system and the process of determining who's in and who isn't and who doesn't even get nominated for a vote has virtually no credibility. Personally, I lost any interest, confidence in the credibility or respect for this turd they refer to as the NASCAR HoF when the best there ever was or maybe ever will be was not inducted within the first group. That man being one David Gene Pearson. Instead they put a guy and the team he drove for in with the first group that made a career of having Billy France Jr. and NASCAR deeply in his pocket.There is a whole lot of people with questionable credentials that are in, and going to be in, the NASCAR HoF. I figure if they're putting everyone in and the whole process has no credibility then why not DEJ and Helton?
                        This 👍Exactly how I feel

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                        • Clayton_Wetters
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2019
                          • 1108

                          #13
                          Dale JR is 100% more likable than SR. For most on and off the track reasons.
                          I'm a copycat wetter... 😎

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                          • Rajflyboy
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 5907

                            #14
                            Jr podcasts and his knowledge of NASCAR history are very good. His driving ability (average at best)Yes he is a nice kid

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