A race track doesn't bring down the national economy when it fails. The companies that were bailed out in 2008 should have been broken up. Too big to fail means too big to exist. TARP wasn't the mistake. The mistake was not punishing after the fall stopped.
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It's one thing to cheer on the fact that a poorly operated business, in this case a race track business, failed and went away. That could be seen as a proper response, a harsh one, but comprehensible, nonetheless. It's a whole other thing to wish for, and cheer that a racetrack facility should be razed and disposed of because you had the misfortune to attended a racing event that wasn't up to your lofty standards, whatever those are. Anyone who wishes for, and takes satisfaction in seeing a racetrack of any kind, of any form of racing be torn down and done away with isn't really a fan. You may call yourself a race fan but you're not. There's other words to describe those kinds of folks but we'll leave that to everyone's imagination.Originally posted by mcarter815 View PostA race track doesn't bring down the national economy when it fails. The companies that were bailed out in 2008 should have been broken up. Too big to fail means too big to exist. TARP wasn't the mistake. The mistake was not punishing after the fall stopped.
I saw as many entertaining and exciting events at Iowa as I saw bad ones. If the division of cars isn't your particular cup of tea, or if the surface isn't to your liking that is understandable and in the eye of the beholder. But, to say a track isn't worthy of it's own existence because you experienced an event that was not to your liking is rather childish, don't you think?
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I attended two Xfinity races and one IndyCar race. All three were a snooze. How many races do I need to attend before I can judge a track? I'm not going to shed any tears over this.Originally posted by CIRF View PostIt's one thing to cheer on the fact that a poorly operated business, in this case a race track business, failed and went away. That could be seen as a proper response, a harsh one, but comprehensible, nonetheless. It's a whole other thing to wish for, and cheer that a racetrack facility should be razed and disposed of because you had the misfortune to attended a racing event that wasn't up to your lofty standards, whatever those are. Anyone who wishes for, and takes satisfaction in seeing a racetrack of any kind, of any form of racing be torn down and done away with isn't really a fan. You may call yourself a race fan but you're not. There's other words to describe those kinds of folks but we'll leave that to everyone's imagination.
I saw as many entertaining and exciting events at Iowa as I saw bad ones. If the division of cars isn't your particular cup of tea, or if the surface isn't to your liking that is understandable and in the eye of the beholder. But, to say a track isn't worthy of it's own existence because you experienced an event that was not to your liking is rather childish, don't you think?
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I attended at least 7 or 8 events at Iowa and at least half of them were above average in regards to entertainment value for the dollar spent.Originally posted by mcarter815 View PostI attended two Xfinity races and one IndyCar race. All three were a snooze. How many races do I need to attend before I can judge a track? I'm not going to shed any tears over this.
Could it be that in your infinite wisdom you had preconceived notions as to the entertainment value of the events you attended? One could easily get that impression. My first trip to Knoxville, the place you tout as being far superior to Iowa, was for a 2 night USAC National Sprint Car race that was a huge disappointment. Also, I've been regularly attending events on the "hallowed grounds" of FALS, as it's been christened in recent years, for over 2 decades and there have been literally a couple of dozen shows there that I recall that were "snoozers". I have 2 very close friends who traveled 600 to 700 miles one way on my recommendations only to find they'd unluckily picked a couple of FALS' "snoozers". Using your short sighted theory I should hope Knoxville gets a direct hit by a category 4 tornado and my friends should hope for, and cheer for FALS to suffer the same fate and be destroyed. My experience at Knoxville and those two shows at FALS are the only frame of reference we have. Sound familiar?
By all means don't shed any tears over this, but try just a teeny bit harder not to be a fool.
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I never once hoped that Iowa Speedway would get torn down. I just said I won't be sad to see it go. I wouldn't spend any of my money to go see another race thereOriginally posted by CIRF View PostI attended at least 7 or 8 events at Iowa and at least half of them were above average in regards to entertainment value for the dollar spent.
Could it be that in your infinite wisdom you had preconceived notions as to the entertainment value of the events you attended? One could easily get that impression. My first trip to Knoxville, the place you tout as being far superior to Iowa, was for a 2 night USAC National Sprint Car race that was a huge disappointment. Also, I've been regularly attending events on the "hallowed grounds" of FALS, as it's been christened in recent years, for over 2 decades and there have been literally a couple of dozen shows there that I recall that were "snoozers". I have 2 very close friends who traveled 600 to 700 miles one way on my recommendations only to find they'd unluckily picked a couple of FALS' "snoozers". Using your short sighted theory I should hope Knoxville gets a direct hit by a category 4 tornado and my friends should hope for, and cheer for FALS to suffer the same fate and be destroyed. My experience at Knoxville and those two shows at FALS are the only frame of reference we have. Sound familiar?
By all means don't shed any tears over this, but try just a teeny bit harder not to be a fool.
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Just as I suspected. You want it both ways when its convenient for you, and it was different under the Obama administration.Originally posted by mcarter815 View PostA race track doesn't bring down the national economy when it fails. The companies that were bailed out in 2008 should have been broken up. Too big to fail means too big to exist. TARP wasn't the mistake. The mistake was not punishing after the fall stopped.
Remember genius, you typed it.
Originally posted by mcarter815 View PostRace tracks are businesses and bad businesses should fail.
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You must have missed the part of my post where I criticized Obama.Originally posted by lurker View PostJust as I suspected. You want it both ways when its convenient for you, and it was different under the Obama administration.
Remember genius, you typed it.Last edited by mcarter815; 07-27-2020, 08:18 AM.
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Talk out of both sides of your mouth much?Originally posted by mcarter815 View PostI never once hoped that Iowa Speedway would get torn down. I just said I won't be sad to see it go. I wouldn't spend any of my money to go see another race there
ZERO, it not only looks like it's too late, but it's WAY too late.Originally posted by ZERO25 View PostBy all means don't shed any tears over this, but try just a teeny bit harder not to be a fool.
Too late!
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Late to the party, but really hoping Iowa is saved. My boys have started going racing with me and one of them does not care for dirt racing. Iowa Speedway is a reasonable drive and took them took Xfinity and trucks... they loved it! I've been to a couple IndyCar races there and I hope to take the boys one day for that experience as well. We will continue to hit local tracks, as well as Knoxville and Road America, but I hope to keep Iowa Speedway on this list as well.
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