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  • mcarter815
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 1690

    #31
    A race track doesn't bring down the national economy when it fails. The companies that were bailed out in 2008 should have been broken up. Too big to fail means too big to exist. TARP wasn't the mistake. The mistake was not punishing after the fall stopped.

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    • Rajflyboy
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2020
      • 5907

      #32
      Iowa just never had any sex appeal

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      • CIRF
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 8122

        #33
        Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
        A race track doesn't bring down the national economy when it fails. The companies that were bailed out in 2008 should have been broken up. Too big to fail means too big to exist. TARP wasn't the mistake. The mistake was not punishing after the fall stopped.
        It's one thing to cheer on the fact that a poorly operated business, in this case a race track business, failed and went away. That could be seen as a proper response, a harsh one, but comprehensible, nonetheless. It's a whole other thing to wish for, and cheer that a racetrack facility should be razed and disposed of because you had the misfortune to attended a racing event that wasn't up to your lofty standards, whatever those are. Anyone who wishes for, and takes satisfaction in seeing a racetrack of any kind, of any form of racing be torn down and done away with isn't really a fan. You may call yourself a race fan but you're not. There's other words to describe those kinds of folks but we'll leave that to everyone's imagination.

        I saw as many entertaining and exciting events at Iowa as I saw bad ones. If the division of cars isn't your particular cup of tea, or if the surface isn't to your liking that is understandable and in the eye of the beholder. But, to say a track isn't worthy of it's own existence because you experienced an event that was not to your liking is rather childish, don't you think?

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        • Rajflyboy
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2020
          • 5907

          #34
          I do believe Kansas is worse than Iowa. I thought Iowa would outlast that bore fest of a track.

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          • balljoint
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1774

            #35
            Biggest SLM race in NW was the Montana 200. Tiny 13 sec 1/4 mile. A lil bigger than slinger. Closed.

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            • mcarter815
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2016
              • 1690

              #36
              Originally posted by CIRF View Post
              It's one thing to cheer on the fact that a poorly operated business, in this case a race track business, failed and went away. That could be seen as a proper response, a harsh one, but comprehensible, nonetheless. It's a whole other thing to wish for, and cheer that a racetrack facility should be razed and disposed of because you had the misfortune to attended a racing event that wasn't up to your lofty standards, whatever those are. Anyone who wishes for, and takes satisfaction in seeing a racetrack of any kind, of any form of racing be torn down and done away with isn't really a fan. You may call yourself a race fan but you're not. There's other words to describe those kinds of folks but we'll leave that to everyone's imagination.

              I saw as many entertaining and exciting events at Iowa as I saw bad ones. If the division of cars isn't your particular cup of tea, or if the surface isn't to your liking that is understandable and in the eye of the beholder. But, to say a track isn't worthy of it's own existence because you experienced an event that was not to your liking is rather childish, don't you think?
              I attended two Xfinity races and one IndyCar race. All three were a snooze. How many races do I need to attend before I can judge a track? I'm not going to shed any tears over this.

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              • CIRF
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 8122

                #37
                Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                I attended two Xfinity races and one IndyCar race. All three were a snooze. How many races do I need to attend before I can judge a track? I'm not going to shed any tears over this.
                I attended at least 7 or 8 events at Iowa and at least half of them were above average in regards to entertainment value for the dollar spent.

                Could it be that in your infinite wisdom you had preconceived notions as to the entertainment value of the events you attended? One could easily get that impression. My first trip to Knoxville, the place you tout as being far superior to Iowa, was for a 2 night USAC National Sprint Car race that was a huge disappointment. Also, I've been regularly attending events on the "hallowed grounds" of FALS, as it's been christened in recent years, for over 2 decades and there have been literally a couple of dozen shows there that I recall that were "snoozers". I have 2 very close friends who traveled 600 to 700 miles one way on my recommendations only to find they'd unluckily picked a couple of FALS' "snoozers". Using your short sighted theory I should hope Knoxville gets a direct hit by a category 4 tornado and my friends should hope for, and cheer for FALS to suffer the same fate and be destroyed. My experience at Knoxville and those two shows at FALS are the only frame of reference we have. Sound familiar?

                By all means don't shed any tears over this, but try just a teeny bit harder not to be a fool.

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                • mcarter815
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 1690

                  #38
                  Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                  I attended at least 7 or 8 events at Iowa and at least half of them were above average in regards to entertainment value for the dollar spent.

                  Could it be that in your infinite wisdom you had preconceived notions as to the entertainment value of the events you attended? One could easily get that impression. My first trip to Knoxville, the place you tout as being far superior to Iowa, was for a 2 night USAC National Sprint Car race that was a huge disappointment. Also, I've been regularly attending events on the "hallowed grounds" of FALS, as it's been christened in recent years, for over 2 decades and there have been literally a couple of dozen shows there that I recall that were "snoozers". I have 2 very close friends who traveled 600 to 700 miles one way on my recommendations only to find they'd unluckily picked a couple of FALS' "snoozers". Using your short sighted theory I should hope Knoxville gets a direct hit by a category 4 tornado and my friends should hope for, and cheer for FALS to suffer the same fate and be destroyed. My experience at Knoxville and those two shows at FALS are the only frame of reference we have. Sound familiar?

                  By all means don't shed any tears over this, but try just a teeny bit harder not to be a fool.
                  I never once hoped that Iowa Speedway would get torn down. I just said I won't be sad to see it go. I wouldn't spend any of my money to go see another race there

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                  • lurker
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 3186

                    #39
                    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                    A race track doesn't bring down the national economy when it fails. The companies that were bailed out in 2008 should have been broken up. Too big to fail means too big to exist. TARP wasn't the mistake. The mistake was not punishing after the fall stopped.
                    Just as I suspected. You want it both ways when its convenient for you, and it was different under the Obama administration.

                    Remember genius, you typed it.

                    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                    Race tracks are businesses and bad businesses should fail.

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                    • mcarter815
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 1690

                      #40
                      Originally posted by lurker View Post
                      Just as I suspected. You want it both ways when its convenient for you, and it was different under the Obama administration.

                      Remember genius, you typed it.
                      You must have missed the part of my post where I criticized Obama.
                      Last edited by mcarter815; 07-27-2020, 08:18 AM.

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                      • ZERO25
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 5240

                        #41
                        By all means don't shed any tears over this, but try just a teeny bit harder not to be a fool.

                        Too late!

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                        • CIRF
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8122

                          #42
                          Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                          I never once hoped that Iowa Speedway would get torn down. I just said I won't be sad to see it go. I wouldn't spend any of my money to go see another race there
                          Talk out of both sides of your mouth much?

                          Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                          By all means don't shed any tears over this, but try just a teeny bit harder not to be a fool.

                          Too late!
                          ZERO, it not only looks like it's too late, but it's WAY too late.

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                          • 15b24fan
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 99

                            #43
                            Late to the party, but really hoping Iowa is saved. My boys have started going racing with me and one of them does not care for dirt racing. Iowa Speedway is a reasonable drive and took them took Xfinity and trucks... they loved it! I've been to a couple IndyCar races there and I hope to take the boys one day for that experience as well. We will continue to hit local tracks, as well as Knoxville and Road America, but I hope to keep Iowa Speedway on this list as well.

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                            • mcarter815
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 1690

                              #44
                              Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                              Talk out of both sides of your mouth much?
                              There's a pretty big difference between wanting a place torn down and not caring if it's gone.

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                              • Rajflyboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2020
                                • 5907

                                #45
                                I don’t know people but one thing is true. Iowa speedway isn’t good enough to even have a discussion thread concerning its existence.

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