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  • Buford.Justice
    Senior Member
    • May 2020
    • 4981

    #16
    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
    When cops execute a no-knock warrant, they should expect to be shot at. No-knock warrants should be illegal. Hopefully Rand Paul's bill goes through.
    Amazing how you keep taking the side of criminals!!!! hehe

    No knock warrents have a valid purpose. It's for the police's own protection at potentially dangerous places.

    But you want to allow the criminals to be tipped off and the police to be endangered.
    Last edited by Buford.Justice; 09-24-2020, 09:12 PM.
    If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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    • Stefan2k20
      Member
      • Sep 2020
      • 75

      #17
      2 officers were shot tonight in the riots and again, It was not a no knock raid as the narrative we've been fed for months now would suggest. An Independent witness who was a neighbor confirmed that the police knocked 3 times and announced themselves.
      Taylor was killed on March 13 while LMPD officers were serving a search warrant as part of a drug investigation. It has been widely reported that the officers were executing a 'no-knock' warrant. With this type of warrant, officers do not have to identify themselves. During the news briefing to explain the grand jury's decision, Cameron only referred to it as a search warrant. He said the officers were told by their superiors to knock and announce their appearance while serving this "specific" search warrant.
      Cameron said evidence shows the "officers both knocked and announced their presence. It was also corroborated by a witness in an apartment near Taylor's." Therefore, Cameron said, the warrant was not served as a "no-knock" warrant. "When officers were unable to get anyone to answer the door at apartment #4, the decision was made to breach the door," Cameron said. Cameron said they pieced together their investigation from ballistics, 911 calls, officer statements and eyewitnesses.

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      • mcarter815
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2016
        • 1690

        #18
        Originally posted by Stefan2k20 View Post
        It was NOT a "no-knock warrant"! That's a lie being perpetrated by the media. There was a witness who testified before the grand jury that the police knocked 3 times and announced themselves before entering the apartment.

        https://www.whas11.com/article/news/...f-c36eb4bd7cc1

        See also tonights Tucker Carlson show. https://youtu.be/q6_-XbTUgYY

        All of these cases are being misrepresented by the media and it's being done on purpose to incite these riots. It's all political and being done because of the upcoming election. Pay attention to the segment of the video that shows the Uhaul truck delivering "supplies" to the "protestors" in Louiseville and how it turns out that trucks rental was paid for by Hearst corporation, a media company.
        There was one neighbor who said the cops announced themselves but they were contradicted by at least one other neighbor who said they didn't hear the police announce themselves. If the cops had worn body cameras, we would know who is telling the truth.

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        • Stefan2k20
          Member
          • Sep 2020
          • 75

          #19
          There was one neighbor who said the cops announced themselves but they were contradicted by at least one other neighbor who said they didn't hear the police announce themselves.
          So are you suggesting that neighbor would have lied about it? What would their motive be? It's entirely conceivable that some neighbors may not have heard the police knock and announce themselves, especially those who may have been farther away. However, for a neighbor to claim that they heard and witnessed this, if we assume as you do that it did not happen, that would mean that particular neighbor would have had to completely fabricate their story and perjure themselves. Why would they do something like that? And how would their account perfectly match the police officers account? But the most important question is why were we never told that the "no Knock raid" narrative was in dispute and that there were witnesses that reported hearing the police knock 3 times and announce themselves before entering the apartment. What we were led to believe by the media was this was an undisputed fact and clearly that was dishonest! That alone proves we're being deliberately misled by people who have an agenda.

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          • mcarter815
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 1690

            #20
            Originally posted by Stefan2k20 View Post
            So are you suggesting that neighbor would have lied about it? What would their motive be? It's entirely conceivable that some neighbors may not have heard the police knock and announce themselves, especially those who may have been farther away. However, for a neighbor to claim that they heard and witnessed this, if we assume as you do that it did not happen, that would mean that particular neighbor would have had to completely fabricate their story and perjure themselves. Why would they do something like that? And how would their account perfectly match the police officers account? But the most important question is why were we never told that the "no Knock raid" narrative was in dispute and that there were witnesses that reported hearing the police knock 3 times and announce themselves before entering the apartment. What we were led to believe by the media was this was an undisputed fact and clearly that was dishonest! That alone proves we're being deliberately misled by people who have an agenda.
            Witnesses aren't always reliable. There are three possible reasons why the neighbor would be contradicting the other witnesses. The first is that the witness is lying. Maybe the witness didn't like the victims or they want to help the officers. The second possibility is that the witness has a faulty memory of the incident and they truly believe they heard the officers announce themselves but in reality that memory is fabricated. That's very common and there are psychology studies showing how it happens going back decades. The third possibility is that only one of the neighbors heard the officers announce themselves and the others just didn't hear it.

            I wasn't led to believe this was undisputed. NPR has been open about the contradictions and the lack of certain details.

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            • NorthAlabama
              Senior Member
              • May 2018
              • 519

              #21
              I got to talk to the lead officer in the famous fight/shooting in Memphis, where the officer told about the investigation. An elder black woman across a noisy busy highway said that she saw and heard the fight where the cop had the suspect on the ground, but it was dark (the suspect had the cop on the ground trying to take his gun). The black woman said see kept on hearing, 'I can't breathe' by the black suspect. Witnesses have been proven, in their minds, see and say crazy things that did not happen. This lady was adding in the New York choke hold case and Travon shooting all in one. Some hate cops so bad that they will lie because they have no morals, which morals are not needed nor acknowledged by the left, it's called 'mental illness'.

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              • dirtMAN007
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 5691

                #22
                Originally posted by NorthAlabama View Post
                I got to talk to the lead officer in the famous fight/shooting in Memphis, where the officer told about the investigation. An elder black woman across a noisy busy highway said that she saw and heard the fight where the cop had the suspect on the ground, but it was dark (the suspect had the cop on the ground trying to take his gun). The black woman said see kept on hearing, 'I can't breathe' by the black suspect. Witnesses have been proven, in their minds, see and say crazy things that did not happen. This lady was adding in the New York choke hold case and Travon shooting all in one. Some hate cops so bad that they will lie because they have no morals, which morals are not needed nor acknowledged by the left, it's called 'mental illness'.
                HANDS UP DON’T SHOOT ! NUFF SAID ! Mcfarter you are UNREAL !

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                • dirtMAN007
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 5691

                  #23
                  Originally posted by northalabama View Post
                  i got to talk to the lead officer in the famous fight/shooting in memphis, where the officer told about the investigation. An elder black woman across a noisy busy highway said that she saw and heard the fight where the cop had the suspect on the ground, but it was dark (the suspect had the cop on the ground trying to take his gun). The black woman said see kept on hearing, 'i can't breathe' by the black suspect. Witnesses have been proven, in their minds, see and say crazy things that did not happen. This lady was adding in the new york choke hold case and travon shooting all in one. Some hate cops so bad that they will lie because they have no morals, which morals are not needed nor acknowledged by the left, it's called 'mental illness'.
                  isn’t that mental illness called liberalism ?

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                  • Barbecueboy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 18116

                    #24
                    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                    Witnesses aren't always reliable. There are three possible reasons why the neighbor would be contradicting the other witnesses. The first is that the witness is lying. Maybe the witness didn't like the victims or they want to help the officers. The second possibility is that the witness has a faulty memory of the incident and they truly believe they heard the officers announce themselves but in reality that memory is fabricated. That's very common and there are psychology studies showing how it happens going back decades. The third possibility is that only one of the neighbors heard the officers announce themselves and the others just didn't hear it.

                    I wasn't led to believe this was undisputed. NPR has been open about the contradictions and the lack of certain details.
                    So these actions were only possible by the person that claims they heard a knock and an announcement? And not the people that say they didn't?

                    Strange you implied that only the neighbor that heard the knock would be the only one that could possibly be mistaken?
                    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                    • Barbecueboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 18116

                      #25
                      Dirtman

                      You spelled" pants up , don't loot" wrong......lol
                      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                      • dirtMAN007
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 5691

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                        You spelled" pants up , don't loot" wrong......lol
                        i stand corrected !

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                        • STRONGERTHANDIRT
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 753

                          #27
                          Can only imagine what it will be like if Trump is re-elected.

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                          • dirtMAN007
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 5691

                            #28
                            Originally posted by STRONGERTHANDIRT View Post
                            Can only imagine what it will be like if Trump is re-elected.
                            this is what they want puzzies to cower down and fold ! be a man stand up for what you believe and prepare yourself and your family !

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                            • Barbecueboy
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 18116

                              #29
                              Originally posted by STRONGERTHANDIRT View Post
                              Can only imagine what it will be like if Trump is re-elected.
                              There for a minute I actually thought the Dems stood a half a chance of beating him this go around.......after watching everything unfold over the last few weeks I'm of the belief they will just beat him like they did last time.

                              Anyone watch the " protecting our democracy " bill announced by the cruella and shifty last night on cspan?? Two words come to mind every time I see there scowling faces talking about trump.........MAD BRO? Lmao.

                              And not poking fun , but what the hell is wrong with nadler?? Man could hardly walk and he looked like he was about to faint? Has he fallen ill, had a stroke or something?
                              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                              • Buford.Justice
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2020
                                • 4981

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                                When cops execute a no-knock warrant, they should expect to be shot at. No-knock warrants should be illegal. Hopefully Rand Paul's bill goes through.
                                Following the announcement on Wednesday Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron told reporters that the night Breonna Taylor died, police did knock and announce themselves before Breonna’s boyfriend shot at them.

                                This fact was verified by an independent witness to the events who lived nearby.

                                You certainly CANNOT blame the police for defending themselves from an armed criminal shooting at them.

                                But the modern day Democrat Party does not believe in hard facts.
                                If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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